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I used to be an enlightened ‘the truth is in the middle’ centrist until I realized that the real world requires having actual ideals

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Eventually you’ll reach the point I did which is that ideals are great but are rarely ever realized, thus, compromise is essential.

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Or you’ll reach a point at which you develop real principles, such as “don’t compromise with fascists like the KKK”

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Principled failure means dogshit. If half the country don’t even know their side supports the KKK, having a fucking conversation is a lot more valuable than preaching to your base. A reminder Trump fucking won on racism and your principles meant nothing to the people who voted for him. The “No compromise, no discussion.” left on Lemmy is fucking wild. You’re barely a step removed from Anarchy and Civil War and it’s a telling how fucking sheltered you all are for even suggesting it.

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9 points

What

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I had a former co-worker pull this “compromise” card when I was talking about how maybe minimum wages should be a living wage. He said “both sides should just come to a middle ground”. Like bruh, you know that “compromise” would be literally not a living wage, right? You get that, right?

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The right has dragged the discussion so far right that we’re arguing for the LEAST BASIC necessities and have to compromise away from them.

We’re not arguing, like we should, should new mothers get 1 year maternity leave or 1.5 years?

No… We’re arguing should they get ANY leave, or nothing???

It’s like this for a million issues, that affect 99% of us, but unfortunately 50% of our population is so stupid and lacks empathy that they are arguing against their own interest.

Billionaires should be fighting 99% of us, instead they have 50 % of the morons fighting the other 50 %.

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There’s already a middle ground, it’s the federal minimum wage (I assume US) that hasn’t moved for 20+ years

like the right doesn’t want there to be a minimum wage. They have a whole body of theory for why the minimum wage should be abolished. They want there to be 0 minimum wage.

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There is a ridiculous amount of examples of abortion centrists who ultimately argue that abortion should be a legal compromise while saying that they don’t support either side. They’re just chronically unable to take any stand.

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Legit all the fucking conservative women I knew got all upset when RvW was overturned and I was like “how the fuck do you not understand you voted for this very fucking thing?”

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28 points

Close, a centrist is converservative but ashamed

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It’s funny how most conservatives I’ve met turn to centrists if you start pressing them on their actual values

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21 points

Uncritical support to comrade Cyber Ghost, for making posts that draw out the liberals so we can ban them.

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Make sure to Photoshop enemies out of pictures as well, Stalin.

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Compromise is overrated in the political arena.

Honey where are we going to eat tonight? Compromise away!

Should women have bodily autonomy? There is no compromise to be had here.

Politics is inherently a battle of ideas, it is supposed to be conflict where better ideas win, and compromise almost never works.

In most cases it just waters down a good idea, it rarely improves a shitty one.

Compromise has historically been used by the right to retard progress, from slavery, to women’s rights to vote, to civil rights, we’ve always had to compromise and then eventually we’ve gotten rid of the compromise and done the correct thing, we should have done in the first place.

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Consensus >>> Compromise

With the necessary means of education of course.

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