Yes, I realize how much hate I will get for this. I don’t give a shit. Seethe away, kids.

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It’s perfectly reasonable for PC gamers who use the Steam platform, which provides copy protection, to be annoyed by having to sign onto services they otherwise would never use. There is no purpose to it aside from marketing and data collection.

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Common in some games when they add cross platform play.

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A lot of shitty policies are common. It doesn’t make them less shitty.

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to be annoyed by having to sign onto services they otherwise would never use

Once.

You only have to sign in ONE SINGLE TIME, to link that one game to your PSN account.

And then you never, ever, ever, EVER have to do anything with that account again, until the sun burns out.

But people will cry their entitled fucking eyeballs out, regardless. Whatever. Like I said, seethe away. It just makes me erect.

EDIT: Also, what data collection? If you’re fucking stupid enough to give Sony an email address that you actually use, you truly, actually deserve to be tracked. Scientists track dumb animals all the time. Nothing wrong with that.

EDIT: Also, it WOULD be fine for people to “be annoyed.” But that’s not what’s happening, is it? These people are throwing a five-alarm, heart-attack-inducing, cringe-o-riffic, shit-smearing tantrum about it.

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It’s against the TOS to use false information to make a PSN account. So now you’re banned and can’t play the game on steam.

Sony has an atrocious record of being hacked as well.

Some of the countries the game was sold in don’t allow PSN accounts to be created. So those users can’t play the game on steam.

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Sony has an atrocious record of being hacked as well.

Ohhhh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Unsavory bad-actor types might get access to my THROWAWAY PROTONMAIL ACCOUNT???

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.

Some of the countries the game was sold in don’t allow PSN accounts to be created. So those users can’t play the game on steam.

And I have to use a VPN to watch porn in Texas. Go find a fucking Kleenex for either your tears or my VPN-powered fucking jizz load. Or don’t buy a box of Kleenex this month, and you’ll save enough money to afford a premium VPN subscription.

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if its such a tiny simple meaningless thing, why even need it in the first place?

check m8 shill

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This is the world we’re making for ourselves. No middle ground between heroic rebel and evil corporate shill.

Whatever. Keep seething. It just keeps making me more erect.

EDIT: I’m just saying, this is how people get radicalized. But NOT the way you’re thinking. Not in the socially positive way that you’re thinking of.

Be mad all you want. I actually don’t care. I’m seriously warning you about this shit where you’re altering your worldview to see “your side” as the heroic good guys, with no faults, and anyone who even SLIGHTLY disagrees with you as one of the evil, evil bad guys.

It’s not even about the impassioned nature of your views. It’s about ALTERING YOUR PERCEPTION IN A WAY THAT BLINDS YOU FROM REALITY.

Here’s what it is: I actually don’t care about this issue AT ALL. I don’t even fucking play Helldivers 2, yet.

I might, at some point. But I dunno. I’m certainly in the key demographic for it. I even played Helldivers 1, which puts me in VERY rare company, compared to all these bandwagon-jumpers, who are now jumping OFF the bandwagon.

But I digress. The point is, I actually don’t really give a shit about the whole PSN thing. I don’t support it. I’m not mad about it.

Now, you DEFINE ME as being a corporate shill, on that basis. And that would be fine, in an academic sense. It would be fine, as long as you remembered “I’m the one defining that guy’s beliefs for him, because I feel that anyone who isn’t fighting against the corporate bullshit is actually supporting it.”

But that’s not how human minds work, in the information-addicted, hyper-connected, echo-chamber-ified social media age.

That environment is hacking your brain. If you’re not careful, you’re going to wake up one day, having completely forgotten that I’m not really a corporate shill. You’ll forget that you defined those terms, and you’ll TRULY BELIEVE that I am an actual servant of the Sony Illuminati.

I’m just saying. That’s how we’ve gotten these Q motherfuckers, these flat-earth motherfuckers, these people who worship indicted political candidates. All that shit. Disagree with me all you want, insult me and my stupid face all you want. But don’t call me a shill so much that you actually start to believe it.

For your sake, more than mine. But for all our sakes, because we don’t need more brainwashed people out here.

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For sure, there’s no need for any fuss, just keep quietly taking all the corporate bs as always. Next time when you’ll need to submit an income form just to access a microtransaction-riddled single player game - just use your parents bank account statement, no need to use your own. And when you’ll need to enter a fingerprint id to unlock your multiplayer account - just ask your friend to help out.

It’s a modern day privacy, apparently. Someone think of those poor companies barely getting by just by selling you the game, the least you could do is share your personal data for them to sell too, better yet get locked into their ecosystem for a long term milking.

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I read all the way up until “next time.” I read nothing after that. Slippery slope fallacy. Thanks for playing.

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In the UK, you have the choice between giving them a picture of your ID or doing a facial scan to complete the age verification requirement.

Lolz just give them a fake email…

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LOLOL no.

Prove that shit. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that Sony can demand a photo ID from you. I mean, the Allies fucking won the war with Japan. Did you not get that memo, somehow?

Get out of here with your lying nonsense.

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I’ll be goddamned. Now that I think about it, this must be because of that anti-porn law that you’ve got, over there. They’re somehow applying it to game services, too.

But then, like, don’t blame Sony for following your laws. How is that fair? If you gave your freedom away, that’s your own fault. Sony can’t change what the UK government requires.

EDIT: lol, ask your king to fix it, peasant

EDIT 2: I live in Texas, and they just enacted an anti-porn law, here. I don’t like it. It’s objectively stupid, and won’t protect anyone from anything. But it’s not worded in such a way that you have to present an ID to Sony, to make a gaming account. So, again, your stupid law is your own fault. It’s incredibly dishonest to blame Sony for problems you created for yourselves.

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Username does not check out

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For a while now, I’ve been telling people that this screenname is aspirational.

That’s basically the truth of the matter.

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The simple reality of the situation is it was a business decision by Sony. They saw this groundswell of potential players to add to their huge database of people to market to, and said “we’re getting those email addresses”. If I had to venture a guess, the higher-ups at Arrowhead are probably livid and pushed back. They get zero out of this change and they have to deal with the fallout. It’s likely part of the publishing agreement.

That said Sony knew this would happen, if probably not to this degree. Maybe they post a solemn jpeg talking about how they “fell short of expectations”. Being Sony it’s likely that they just ignore the backlash. Their projections say they’ll make more money with all that new data than they’ll lose on some half-hearted boycott. Gamers are notoriously horrid at sticking to that shit. And you know what? That next battle pass is gonna sell just fine even if the vocal folks don’t buy it.

Yes, it sucks and it’s reasonable to be annoyed. Yes, many loud people on the internet are acting like a helldiver kicked down their door and demanded a kidney. Yes, only one party gains from this and it’s Sony. These things aren’t mutually exclusive. No need for argument imo.

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They saw this groundswell of potential players to add to their huge database of people to market to, and said “we’re getting those email addresses”

See, this is the salient point, right here.

The correct response to this action is “LOL, sure. You can have my protonmail account that I only use to sign up for free shit, anyway.”

Checkmate. Internet 1, Sony 0.

But instead, we get all this shit-flinging, foot-stomping, childish nonsense.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, signing up for all the shit they ask us to sign up for, in an ORGANIZED WAY, could actually change the whole situation, for the better. Here’s the plan that should be enacted:

  1. Nobody gets screeching mad. Angry people behave predictably.

  2. Everyone reminds each other to ONLY USE THROWAWAY ADDRESSES TO SIGN UP FOR CORPORATE SHIT.

  3. Everyone reminds each other to NEVER ENGAGE WITH ANY MAILING LISTS OR OTHER BULLSHIT THAT YOU GET, ON ANY OF THOSE THROWAWAY ADDRESSES.

  4. Stick to that shit, for EVERYTHING. Don’t try and stop people from asking for your stupid throwaway email. Don’t threaten anybody with boycotting. Just continue giving out the completely worthless email addresses.

  5. Sooner or later, it becomes apparent that the majority of email addresses that are being collected in this manner are basically worthless.

  6. Consequently, the value of these email addresses plummets, both as a tradeable commodity and as a means of mining further data.

  7. Corporations slowly stop trying to track people via email.

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