Science Advances report also finds people of color and low-income residents in US disproportionately affected

Using a gas stove increases nitrogen dioxide exposure to levels that exceed public health recommendations, a new study shows. The report, published Friday in Science Advances, found that people of color and low-income residents in the US were disproportionately affected.

Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.

When you’re using a gas stove, you are burning fossil fuel directly in the home,” said Yannai Kashtan, lead author of the study and a PhD candidate at Stanford University. “Ventilation does help but it’s an imperfect solution and ultimately the best way is to reduce pollution at the source.”

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I want to say now since we just got one that modern glass-top electric stoves are pretty great. They heat up quickly and they’re very easy to clean. So the latter part is already a huge advantage over gas stoves.

We didn’t even get a fancy one or anything. A basic model.

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They heat up quickly and they’re very easy to clean.

I keep seeing people say this as a benefit of glass-top electrics, but this has never been the case with any one of those I’ve used. A boil-over invariably leaves a grimy black ring that can’t be scrubbed off even with hours of scrubbing. So they end up looking grimy.

Meanwhile, my sealed gas burners are easy to get clean. I just sweep up the crumbs and then dump some boiling water and a couple drops of dish soap and wipe it up.

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I just spent almost two weeks on vacation in an apartment with an induction stove. I’ve had gas my whole life. I was impressed. It heated the pans faster and more evenly, the temperature was more tuneable and it was easy to clean.

While standard resistive stoves do get those rings, the inductive one almost certainly wouldn’t, because the glass only gets heated by the pan, rather than the other way around.

The only difficulty was the Samsung UX. It was a bit of a chore to get the pan centered on the coil, and there was insufficient feedback when you got it right or wrong and if it wasn’t in the right place it just wouldn’t work. I got used to it, but I’d have liked some better markings, and an LED ring that would show when it was on. It also didn’t automatically heat the pan quickly on startup. You had to set it to 9, then back off, otherwise it would heat the pan on a duty cycle.

If I were to upgrade my kitchen, I’d absolutely go with induction. However, even beyond my usual research, I’d make damn sure I got the best option on this. I love cooking too much to screw it up.

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We were going to go with induction, but it was just too expensive.

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What were you using to clean? I’ve been able to get those rings off with the regular glass cooktop cleaner and a little elbow grease. You could probably use something a little more abrasive but still glass-safe if you wanted.

My main issue was it’s harder to get greases off completely instead of leaving a slight streaky film, but that’s mostly just an aesthetic concern.

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I’m using a non-scratching scrubbing pad and the recommended stovetop cleaner. I can get most of the worst of it, but there’s always a ring of carbonized food that just sticks around.

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A boil-over invariably leaves a grimy black ring that can’t be scrubbed off even with hours of scrubbing.

I expect it would depend on what cleaning product you use. Bar Keepers Friend does wonders on stainless steel; perhaps it’s safe for glass as well?

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Admittedly we’ve only had it about a month now, but it’s been fine so far.

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A word of warning: if it’s a Samsung appliance it will fail within the first year, or right outside of it. Samsung appliances are garbage, their electronics are solid.

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Induction, or just standard electric burners under glass?

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The latter.

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Same. The upgrade in cleaning effort is beyond words. These are what the “rich people” had when I was a teenager. I’ve just inherited my first. I yearn for the induction model, though.

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I’ve been considering replacing our gas stove with an Indication range.

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We were going to, but they’re so much more expensive than electric. We did opt for a conventional plus convection oven though. That was definitely a good purchase.

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Convection ovens are game changers for sure. Our current one is convection. We haven’t gotten an Induction range one yet due to the pricing.

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Thanks for sharing!

Any additional information you may like to share or any links or research you did before buying?

Pros and cons you have seen, over the weeks/years?

Good or cheap basic model, $700 plus?

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I’m sorry, I don’t. My wife did all of the research and stuff for it because I was focused on health issues (also, she’s a librarian, so research is her thing). All I said was try to get one that didn’t involve some stupid app or whatever.

I’m not even 100% sure what model it is because I just looked and I can’t see if it says anywhere. It’s a GE and they have a whole ton of models on their website, so I couldn’t tell you, but I’m guessing she paid significantly less than $1000 for it.

She’s still asleep, but if I remember to ask her when she wakes up, I will.

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Thanks for taking the time to explain what you can!

Sorry to hear about the health issues, I hope you are doing better!


edit: format

Anyone with more/better info or experience please feel free to chime in!

Quick search results:

Seems cheapest I found from:

  • GE ~$528 no tax included, at local diy chain store and big tech store

  • GE site: $588 no tax

  • costco $679.99 no tax

Gas to Electric: An electrician will be needed to exchange the 110-volt outlet to a 220/240-volt outlet.


Gas:

Elec.:

https://www.hgtv.com/design/rooms/kitchens/gas-vs-electric-ranges-is-one-better-than-the-other


https://reviewed.usatoday.com/ovens/features/pros-and-cons-of-gas-vs-electric-cooking

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/appliances/g2875/best-electric-ranges/

https://www.consumerreports.org/appliances/ranges/pros-and-cons-of-induction-cooktops-and-ranges-a5854942923/

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Love my new induction stove! Our old gas stove was leaking and could have blown up the house. We’ve noticed a lot less waste heat too, metal pan handles can be grabbed without a hot pad, the kitchen doesn’t heat up as much from cooking. And it heats up blazingly fast.

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I’m looking to switch to a induction stove when my current gas stove dies. Do you happen to know what amperage was needed on yours?

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Ours was 50 amp, which seems to be pretty common for 30-36in wide cooktops

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What’s the response time like when reducing heat?

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It is nearly instantly. Heat is generated in the pot directly, not in/on the stove, so there is nothing else which stores the energy, like the plates in older ones.

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The heat goes down immediately with most pans. Cast iron retains more heat though.

We went to the thrift store with a fridge magnet to buy our new pans, stainless steel lasts a long time

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Can i ask what brand? And what the oven runs on – i assume electric? I’m interested, but have always used terrible electric coils or gas.

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Yeah we went with the GE Profile 36in induction cooktop.

It’s more responsive than either gas or electric coils. The catch is you need pans that a fridge magnet will stick to. A trip to the thrift store with a magnet worked out for us.

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Given the EPAs policy on natural gas leaks was to ask the gas companies if they’ve noticed anything, I’d say we’ve got some distance to go on stopping the sale of natural gas stoves.

Climate Town has a good video on this subject - and others - that might be a good watch.

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The biggest problem with leaving gas stoves is all the older homes that simply are not equipped for them. Many homes with gas not only lack 240v 30a outlets in their kitchens, they may have only 100 or even 60 amp service and may not be able to even add such a circuit. Upgrading to electric could easily cost homeowners 5 figures.

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Sounds like the solution is to increase the cost of gas until it costs more than 5 figures to continue using it.

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Putting the screws to poor people won’t improve the situation.

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Also want to shout out Technology Connections’ video.

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Folks this is a garbage study. N=18, and then extrapolating the dangers based on aggregated stats of disease states?

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Yeah. I still want an induction stove, but this doesn’t look good.

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Same, I want both, with proper ventilation.

Gas for particular preparations where it’s traditional/ideal and induction for everything else

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There are plenty of valid reasons for wanting one. I’m not against them. They just don’t suit my particular use case, and I hate deliberately misleading studies.

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NO2 exposure hazards are already known, see the references in this study. This is only looking at NO2 production in homes, so I don’t think 18 is too small a sample size. It’s not like they’re trying to determine whether burning natural gas produces NO2, that’s a given. They’re looking at how much, how factors like hoods and airflow affect it, and how it goes throughout the house, not just in the kitchen.

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TBH the sample is less concerning than the experimental design, and by a lot.

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That’s a fair point and needs to be explored. But the study does not do what it says on the tin.

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In NYC, this is actually a major concern since most kitchens don’t even have ventilation. Of my four apartments here, only one has had any form of ventilation in the kitchen.

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I’m surprised that’s even legal.

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Are you really? NY’s housing market is an absolute scam. Landlords are allowed to neglect their buildings until it gets so bad that the punishment for neglect is Riker’s since any fines get taken out on their tenants. Something like 80% of residential buildings are owned by corporations.

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True I forgot how broken the legal system is in NY.

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