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I remember I got into an argument on reddit awhile ago with a person over Italian food. It got to the point they were following me into other subs to harass me. I clicked on their profile to block them and their most recent post was them drinking their own piss on r/piss. At that moment I realized I had spent so much pointless time arguing about the taste of food with someone who drinks their own piss as a hobby. This site is a shit hole.
Humanity is a shithole. Social media is a cross-section.
I hate that pov so much.
Humanity is fantastic, wonderful, loving and amazing. It’s not a shit hole.
I’d argue society is really broken in some places, but not humanity.
As for Social media: it just brings out some dark side in some people. The vast majority of people on social media behave. It’s just that the outliers catch the attention.
I hate this pov so much.
I think it perpetuates that things are better than they actually are and inhibits change and progress… we’re all different I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Fair enough :)
I just don’t see how believing the worst in your fellow human can encourage you to improve things.
But the poster you replied to has a point:
Just like most animals the greater majority of people try to avoid as many direct conflicts as possible IRL. And they’re full of empathy and compassion - even for other animals in distress and inanimate objects (saw off the fingers of a plastic doll in front of others and see how they treat you afterwards).
But of course people will lose a part of that compassion etc once they move within society without feeling like a part of it. One example is driving a car. You’re way less aware of being a part of society even though you’re “swimming” in it. Feeling a strong individual agency and being empowered by two tons of steel while simultaneously being greatly restricted by everyone and everything around you will do that to you.
Same goes for the (social) media landscape. We feel empowered by our own echo chambers and/or chosen media outlet while barely interacting with anyone who could challenge our beliefs (which, funnily enough, is often the right call in that context, because we can’t change strong opposing beliefs via social media). And since it’s all an indirect, mostly faceless interaction, our beliefs will automatically be strengthened and we’ll be more likely to agitate anyone with opposing beliefs (while still avoiding any direct conflict).
So I’d say it’s more of a flaw in our design, that is being exploited, than a general lack of sympathy/empathy (of which we actually have plenty).
Which means you can’t hold any one individual to higher standards. Because that’s not where we “fail”. It’d take a much broader appliance of social securities (housing, food, healthcare, education etc all over the world) and a fundamental change in the way we interact. But you and I won’t change that (though I guess it’s comforting telling ourselves that we could individually change things on a greater scale).
If you consider that we are currently destroying our eco system that we need to survive and have known for over 50 years that the co2 levels will cause major issues, but nobody really felt the need to act. And when the countries actually sat together and made the Kyoto contracts the USA steped in and fucks up the whole idea. Thanks Bush you little Oil-fucker!
Considering that you could say humanity is fucked and humans are at fault. And if you look at it the people voting are at fault too, falling for company and other proparganda and voting for a government that fucks them even harder.
I would say humanity as we know it won’t exist anymore in 200 years. War, droughts, floods and shit will get us. Even if we would act now the whole planet would need to cooperate. No Chance!
Again, I’d blame society for that, not humanity.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the actual power in the world lies in the hand of just a fraction of percent of the people. Those asshole ruin it for everyone else.
Doesn’t mean the average human is evil.
it’s like when you cut a tub of ice cream to see the distribution
you can tell a platform hasn’t got a good mix of people if there aren’t any freaks or difficult bastards
It’s ok to be a freak. It’s not ok to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole. We like the weirdos for the colourfulness they bring to our lives. No one likes an asshole.
Keep Lemmy weird. Don’t be an asshole. Live by these rules and this place will always be great.
We all have our moments (or so he tells himself). I’m not advocating being an asshole, but they do make things seem more real. I’ve been in online groups where everyone’s blandly cordial and it all feels lifeless.
You can be a difficult bastard without being mean though, it’s practically my whole job these days.
On lemmy you’re just arguing with the same piss enjoyers without a piss home due to lack of active communities. Lemmy is just ex Redditors acting like they are better than Redditors.
Redditors are cool. It’s the admin that can eat shit. I’d still be on that site if they weren’t greedy fucks.
I can’t imagine thinking redditors are cool. Not even redditors think redditors are cool.
Haha, cool as in I have no beef with them. If you thought I meant “hip” I’ll just say I can’t judge since I’ve been out of that game for a while, as evidenced by my use of “hip” in a sentence.
Not “redditors” but the niche communities. But that’s a numbers and patience game and I’ve got time.
I’m not going to support a scummy corporate company because Lemmy’s users can sometimes be elitist.
I reported an account that was posting CP and they banned ME for report abuse and let them continue posting but removed one of their CP posts. Reddit is a cesspool.
I wonder if Reddit could be held legally liable for trafficking in CP in that case. They were explicitly told “this is CP and should be deleted” and they didn’t act.
They didn’t care for many years when /jailbait or /creepshots (pictures taken of women without their consent) was still a thing. It brought them traffic along with all their other porn subs
They only cared when advertisers caught wind of them & considered dropping out
From Wikipedia:
Communities devoted to explicit material saw rising popularity, and r/jailbait, which featured provocative shots of underage teenagers, became the chosen “subreddit of the year” in the “Best of reddit” user poll in 2008, and at one point, making “jailbait” the second most common search term for the site.[3] Erik Martin, general manager of Reddit, defended the subreddit by saying that such controversial pages were a consequence of allowing free speech on the site.[117]
So that is ok but if you post to an “unapproved” subreddit (even if you are leaving a criticism of them) you get banned from subreddits by bots. Then you accidently post to one of them from a 2nd account and your account gets perma banned. Yay! “Reddit, a place for open discussion for only people we approve of subject to arbitrary rules.”
banned ME for report abuse
Wouldn’t be surprised if the poster was a mod.
Reddit teaches you to not argue with people more than absolutely necessary. It’s a waste of time. Just stop responding to them if you don’t want to talk.
I commented that I had switched to Firefox browser from a chromium browser and that I was still using it but really didn’t like it and listed a few reasons why and got more down votes on that single comment than I’d ever gotten total on reddit. The condescending responses were something else. I almost deleted my account, like sorry, I clearly don’t subscribe to the lemmy hive mind, so I don’t belong here. I also don’t have strong feelings about Linux, guess I should get fucked.
As long as you’re not posting toxic stuff, you should just ignore downvotes because many people use them as disagree button instead of replying why they disagree with your points.
Well, the good thing about Lemmy is your downvotes don’t add up to some Karma like it did on Reddit. You’re free to state your opinion in one post without having to carry it around everywhere.
The total score is appearently stored on your user somewhere in the database but not displayed… Someone said. They lied?
If you were on a linux or heavily privacy focused community, that’ll do it. I don;t mention that I use windows, I just say I’m looking into the swap to linux.
You can tell you’re perfectly in touch with the Lemmy use base by how your comment claiming they all are evil and hate you is upvoted a lot.
Reminds me of the time I got downvoted for saying that I’m not going to pre-emptively leave Chrome due to their plans to make adblock stop working until my adblock actually stops working.
Firefox not having tab grouping native on mobile is the sole reason I won’t switch from chrome, i run adGuard as a vpn anyway so nothing google is doing will affect me.
But also - 20 is rookie numbers, i think i broke -400 on one of my reddit comments years ago, I don’t even remember what I said, I don’t think it was even political as I lean pretty left.
I posted a link in !technology@lemmy.ml about how mozilla had ruined firefox, damm got a hell lot of downvotes and a bunch of comments who hadn’t even watched the video going ‘hurr durr google baddd’
Probably because mozilla didn’t ruin Firefox. Like at all. And the alternative is chrome which supports a global spyware system whose goal is ad revenue at the expense of the concept of privacy.
Whoops my bad this logical argument is invalid because I’m simply “hurr durr”-ing
Sorry that you feel that way but I can’t see why after checking out the comment. It has downvotes yes. But there’s only 1 out of the 5 replies that I could agree is condescending. And it’s at the very bottom. The other comments seem to be trying to be helpful (because your experience with firefox can easily be fixed). How would that make you almost delete your account? Unless I’m looking at the wrong comment.
Not being an Arch user, I see that trend as redundant.
If half of what is said about Arch is true, the system by default tries to kill the user out of sheer exhaustion from keeping it running.
I will say my next PC I may try to go with a nix distro after being exposed to so many of the latest features, in no small party due to the sentiment on Lemmy.
Mind you, that doesn’t mean I won’t use windows but I am curious to try. The constant bashing though has gone from slightly unexpected to annoying to now just cute.
True I have yet to see Lemmy being any better. Although it’s good to see that even libtards are fleeing from Reddit.
