100 points

Glorious Victory ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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28 points

Major Order Completed! +50 Medals

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23 points

Nice! Guess I can add it back to my wishlist and consider buying it soon! Been holding off on it too long

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15 points
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“too long”? The game is 4 months old.

Hot take, don’t buy any games which were only released in the last 12 months. Matured games are far more stable

I remember when people on this site were saying Helldivers was already GOTY back on release week, hilarious.

If it wins after this situation, it’s definitely not the players choice.

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14 points

I’d agree with this statement for most games, but the best way to enjoy Helldivers 2 specifically is to play it when the playerbase and the hype is at its peak. The gameplay will still be just as good a year from now, sure, but you’d miss the emergent story being built right now

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3 points

I won’t miss out on any gameplay story by waiting a year. I have a core set of friends, we’ll do just fine in a years time.

The only thing I’m missing out on is this dramatic period of instability

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259 points

This shows the power of steam reviews with it being driven by the actual community. People tried to downplay and belittle its effectiveness, but it being front and center on the store page does have more impact than there would be without steam reviews. If there were no steam reviews the PSN requirement would have been pushed through with it being easier to ignore some random internet comments on social media than a store page.

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147 points

Reviews aren’t pointless, but their impact only goes so far. I am assuming the massive amount of refunds had more to do with it, tbh.

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109 points

I suspect someone in accounting ran the numbers and decided they stand to lose more to reduced microtransaction sales than they would have gained via selling scraped data.

Though I agreed with you. It’s still a win, but we have to be careful not to conflate this with Sony “caring”.

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30 points

I still think the biggest reason why they wanted to push their shitty platform is to artificially push player numbers. “Look how many people use our scam network, see?”
Now the hilarious part is that hopefully someone has to explain why people go these lengths, just to not join their shitty service.

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2 points

It was not “someone in accounting”

This shit goes all the way to the top. Every manager in the chain will have their take and influence on the numbers.

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13 points

It’s probably a bit of this and a bit of that. I mean the game went from one of the best revied games to one of the worst in a day. There were refunds and a drop in players all at the same time.

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9 points

My prediction is that the game will rebound, certainly, but will not reach back to the levels it had before. A percentage of people who refunded won’t be buying again and another section probably will quit the game altogether, now or as soon as something newer and shinier shows up. Lots will forget to change their review.

Sony actively hurt their own game and probably made irreparable damage.

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6 points

I’d imagine that there’s math to be done on sales for a mixed review game vs. a overwhelming positive one, and its not favorable.

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57 points
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It’s a good reminder that collective/democratic bargaining works. It’s about time we bring back unions and cooperatives.

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10 points

Made me imagine a page where everyone everyday can leave 1 vote on how good the government performs

If the scores are too low for a prolonged period of time, the government is dismissed.

(Obviously a very first-second concept with millions of flaws - just a thought)

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8 points

In a two party system, that would just make it so we switch governments every day.

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4 points

‘member We the People?

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7 points

The sony communities I saw poopooing the whole thing flipped immediately into “WE DID IT” mode, pretending they actually cared about the people that were going to lose access.

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11 points

Now do it for things like universal healthcare and taxing the rich!

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11 points

Country reviews on Steam, do it Gabe

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2 points

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ or else you basically support Xbox

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0 points

This is why Steam reviews should be taken much more seriously. This was impossible to avoid due to the enormous amount of bad press and devs themselves jumping on the hate train, but I’m betting that a lot of review bombing attempts have been quietly offset by the company just paying people for fake reviews. It’s especially obvious when the game has relatively low reviews for months and months, then suddenly bad stuff happens and along with the justified dump of negative reviews, positive ones also skyrocket (99% of which composed of “good game”, random memes or ascii art).

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19 points

This has the “fuck you” energy without the actual word

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10 points

It does?

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9 points

It does not.

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19 points

“we listened to your feedback and made major changes to planned updates” is fuck you energy?

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21 points

"We listened to our accounting, and the massive wave of refunds and unbought mtx is hurting our numbers. PR isn’t happy about the reviews either. We’ll keep you updated on future plans for fucking you over!

Do you really think that Sony will actually back down? They are calming down the shitstorm that is going over all media, socials and steam. They’ll reorganize and will move on with their plans. Arrowhead and Helldivers is just one of many assets.

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1 point

Of course not.

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-1 points

The review bombing was serious but I’d eat my hat if this stunt cut revenue by more than 10%. I don’t have anything for Helldivers but here’s an article about Dragons Dogma 2

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1 point

It does kind of have “We would have gotten away with it, if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids!” energy to me.

There’s no way they thought the PSN thing would’ve been a well-received update.

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149 points
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“We’re still learning what is best for PC players”

Well PlayStation staff member, it definitely isn’t having people create another account when they already have a Steam account.

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99 points

Also gaming on a PC is 40 years old, what do they still have to learn?

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Maybe a company that has (mostly) made consoles isn’t exactly playing games or has people on staff on the executive level that play(ed) on a PC. I’m 30 and outside of a brief time I tried to play on a PC I’ve pretty much been console my entire life. My first gaming experiences were all on console. It’s completely logical for a company to make a move like this when they have specialized in one area for a time.

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8 points

It’s called market research.

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132 points

How much less bullshit PC players are willing to put up with compared to their console counterparts, apparently.

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73 points

Uhhhh, people install shit like Vanguard just so that they can keep having their mother insulted in the ingame chat.

And many people put up with cascades of different lauchers (and accounts).

So I am glad that there was some push back this time, but it’s not like there would be some sane baseline of PC players in that regard.

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7 points

“You guys actually want to play these things? Yeeesh.”

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12 points

It’s all a fucking smokescreen. Man, people just eat that shit up. Every time. It’s almost like the game is saturated in satire and we’re spooning it down ourselves.

Oh, wait. fuck.

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6 points

They are used to playstation players who buy a console for twice the price it’s worth through discord bots. I don’t think they even know what a backlash is

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6 points

Nowadays a console is just a locked down, less expensive pc. I think buying the components of a ps5 and assembling the pc is more expensive than just buying a console and liberating it, which is what I would do if I was to ever buy one.

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5 points

They are learning what level of bullshit PC gamers will tolerate.

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