250 points

“ChatGPT, how do I use a Java SQL connector?”

“Duplicate question, closed”

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Are we sure this deal is about answering new SO questions with LLM? It’s more likely to be a deal where SO sells access to its database to OpenAI so they can use human-generated content for LLM training, and SO gets to use LLM as a more efficient search through its human-generated content.

It’s possible they could also choose to delegate the duplicate decision to the LLM but let’s be honest, that decision is currently crap anyway.

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19 points

I think the joke is that the AI trained on SO data to the point that duplicate, similar, or common questions would get this treatment. Since that’s common enough on SO to be a meme.

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Yeah, that was my assumption as well. I wonder how they’re going to work around that SO is getting spammed with AI-generated answers, though. You really don’t want your LLM cannibalizing itself.

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That’s SO’s problem going forward. OpenAI already got what they wanted – legal access to SO’s database up to this moment, when it’s still mostly human.

I didn’t say this was a good deal for SO.

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Okay, but on current hardware/OS the previous solution is no longer valid… Hello?!

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Have you tried using Windows 11 instead of your weird Linux distro? Windows 11 is the best Operation system in the market, by the greatest software company Microsoft. It features the best user experience, not only removing all those complicated settings from your grasp but providing you with suggestions tailored just for you!

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…Did you just speculated a terrifyingly credible AI-generated Microsoft ad disguised as genuine tech support?

Confusing realization here

Isn’t that like an AI ad about AI and ads?

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212 points

What annoys me about companies like StackOverflow, Reddit, Twitter, etc. partnering with AI firms is that they do not actually create any of the content on their platforms. Sure, if you read the terms they technically own the data, but still…

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Just more nonsense showing how broken modern copyright is. It’s too hard to write weasely legalese to just say you have the right to reproduce content submitted to your website, you have to own it entirely. And if you own it, why not sell it?

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It’s not difficult at all, these companies just have no reason to do it that way. They force you to agree to their terms before you can use the website at all, which means they’re in a much better position to make demands. We can’t counter with anything, it’s just “agree that we own this copy of your content”.

And most of us agree to it because we have no way of knowing that someday our content might actually be worth something.

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I don’t think it’s broken. I’m pretty sure it’s working as intended. In the early days of the colonisation of the web capitalists made it already pretty clear how property laws will be applied there.

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That’s basically what most tech companies are trying to optimize these days, the ability to make money off of other people’s work. It’s why they’re so hyped about trying to use AI to replace the very workers it’s trained on.

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Most of modern civilization wasn’t built by the current S&P500 — most of them didn’t exist 50 years ago, let alone 100 — it was built by humanity, collectively, over thousands of years.

That fact won’t stop any individual or corporation from trying to claim absolute dominion over the entire human population, all derivative works and resources, or the rest of our descendants futures, for all eternity.

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14 points

The goal of every thief is to take something of value from someone else without any repercussions for themselves.

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Can’t wait to get insulted by the AI for asking a “stupid” question and be told the answer has already been asked without a link but with a passive aggressive tone hinting my family tree might have been close knit akin to a thumbleweed.

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37 points

Or being to to google the problem with the only result being the question you just asked.

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25 points

We will fondly look back on the days of finding highly specific dead forum threads that are a decade or more old about the issue we were having.

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3 points

And a reply post saying

nvm figured it out

with no additional details

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19 points

DUPLICATE COMMENT

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Yeah but a lot of people don’t really know what SO is for. They think you just go there and get help and call it a day. But the entire point is to produce structured questions, discourse, and answers aimed at future readers. Super specific, no-context, or duplicate problems are not useful. If you are not trying to generate useful content, don’t go to SO.

Just look at all the people getting frustrated at being told “you should probably do it a different way.” They really don’t understand that just because they’re asking the question, it’s not all about them.

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I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying it’s not the friendliest way to enthuse beginners to this way of working.

I get it’s frustrating, but when you’re asking your first question ever, it feels like paying for everyone else. xD

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The idea of SO is a little awkward too I think. With something like Wikipedia we’re presumably in an academic mindset. Carefully gathering information, sources, structuring it all. And even then people can get turned off by the ‘bureaucracy’ or nitpicking or whatever.

When people show up at SO they’re probably more in a “I can’t figure this damn thing out!” mode. We’re struggling with a problem, keeping a bunch of junk in our head, patience being tested, but we’re still expected to have a bit of academic rigor in our question and discourse.

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Just look at all the people getting frustrated at being told “you should probably do it a different way.” They really don’t understand that just because they’re asking the question, it’s not all about them.

I don’t agree. I remember having a problem (something with PDF and JS if I remember correctly) and I had some restrictions (no I could not do anything about those restrictions). Someone on SO had asked my question with somewhat the same restrictions, which boiled downed to no being able to utilize the most common solution. The first answer on SO was to use the solution that specifically could not be used.

I can see your point and I actually somewhat agree but when the answers are “do X” to the question “how do I do this when I cannot do X?”, the audience should be the minority going there because they have a niece problem, not the majority that are lead there by search engines. And all the “do X” answers should be removed, or moved somewhere they are relevant.

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84 points

Now they partner with OpenAI after banning AI answers provided by users? Wow, such hypocrisy https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/policy-generative-ai-e-g-chatgpt-is-banned

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82 points

Now they’re getting paid, so fuck you!

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48 points

That exactly tracks. You can’t feed answers from an AI into an AI. It gets all incesty (technical term). So they have to ban user submitted AI answers.

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6 points

Yet use AI (possibly) to determine users’ AI answers.

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My new anti AI-detection AI is designed to write in ways not detectable by current AI-detection AI.

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It gets all incesty (technical term)

I, too, am very technically specific about the porn I watch

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9 points

Were they trying to avoid having AI produced output sold as LLM input along with their human user generated content? I wonder if this was some big picture decision or pure coincidence.

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Banning AI answers was reasonable though. People were posting were too many not verified and incorrect code snippets that entire quality of the platform would decrease. AI still makes more mistakes than humans that provide responses on stack.

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Chatgpt: How do I kill all the children in this thread?

As a AI model I’m not allowed to promote violence against… Also since children are involved this case was reported to your local enforcement agency

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Does ChatGPT can really report you in case you say something like this? Is it just a threat or can it really become more?

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28 points

Chat GPT generates plausible auto-complete text. If it has been trained on saying “this case was reported to your local law enforcement agency”, those are the kinds of words it might spit out.

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Does ChatGPT can

That makes no sense.

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It would take a super genius to understand that they’re either a non-native English speaker or made a simple typo/autocorrect issue. Also, since it’s completely impossible to even guess at the point they’re trying to make through the context of every other word in their comment we all owe you a debt of gratitude for calling this out!

Thank you, corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca, for adding something incredibly meaningful to the conversation and the world as a whole!

Oh no… I just saw this comment in a different thread from 2 hours ago, and it MAKES NO SENSE:

Doctors today face a demand form their services that, while we can’t guarantee will get them.jigher wages, can give them more leeway against unwritten political rules of speech.

What is a doctor’s “demand form?” And “them.jigher” isn’t a term I could find anywhere on the internet! I don’t understand what the author, corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca, was trying to say! It’s all just gibberish!

I feel good calling it out though. I’m sure that corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca will be grateful for my much-needed help and not think I’m a dick for detracting from their point to assert my knowledge of English grammar over them.

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ok but does chatgpt is gay??

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