two unrelated wars

the problem here is that the average liberal pundit/bot/think tank ghoul think that Putin is an evil mastermind who is manipulating all world events along with China and Iran (and sometimes DPRK and even Venezuela) and that the war in gaza is just part of the evil strategy to distract the west from ukraine

Honestly you’re not that far off there

They’re called influencers.

Logging on to reddit and asking “what time is it in Washington DC, buddy? Got your Biden bux for this post?”

I think the difference here is that Russia is actually winning on the battlefield, and Ukrainian army isn’t likely going to be able to hold on much longer. So, there’s going to be an Afghanistan style debacle with public already being against the war.

Here’s an interview with Vijay Prashad, a Marxist scholar who understands the core of world geopolitics, dismantling the idea that Russia-Ukraine is an inter-imperialist conflict: https://youtu.be/pwuatE-3Q5c?t=27m43s

He is very historically literate, being someone who has studied history professionally and applies Leninism to understanding the underlying processes at work. Consider the possibility that you’re using terms you don’t understand. You won’t get very far in describing the world accurately if you don’t understand imperialism as Lenin described it in his time, let alone the “hyper-imperialist” system we have today with one supreme world hegemon, which is not Russia or China.

Those countries are defensive powers without imperialist ambitions, Prashad argues. America is the one that has hundreds of military bases across the globe and goes around provoking its designated enemies, such as installing a pro-NATO fascist government in Ukraine. Even if you don’t like what I’m saying, like it hurts your feelings or you just don’t care, I highly recommend watching the whole 40-ish minute talk Prashad gives in that video, it’s a fantastic summation of the world we live in. He also critiques the way a lot of Marxists are analyzing imperialism, so you can’t really say his take is dogmatic. Like don’t just fuck off back to your own instance without at least looking at the material we’re giving you, you might even learn something.

And I want your nazi ass to fuck off back to lemmy but unlike you I understand that isn’t realistic

Ukraine only wanted eastern Ukraine for the ethnic cleansing, so nah. Russia gets to keep what they took. If Z wasn’t such a CIA asset maybe he would have negotiated to keep from throwing soldiers into the meat grinder. On the other hand, cocaine for dead soldiers is a pretty good deal.

This starts with peace talks.

Edit: I didn’t realize this was imperialismbear.net. My bad.

Then you want peace talks

I agree!!! Slava kraine 🇺🇦

how did you feel about the 2014 coup orchestrated by the USA, was that cool and good

Either you want peace talks or you’re a meat grinder enthusiast

Probably shoulda stuck to Minsk II then.

Passing this on to VZ (that’s what us close with Zelensky call him)

Edit: I didn’t realize this was imperialismbear.net. My bad.

woow good one

Edit: I didn’t realize I’d receive pushback on ideas I can’t defend. Better find a way to be condescending to save face during my cowardly exit.

I didn’t realize this was imperialismbear.net. My bad.

New site tagline

Ah yes, being anti-imperialism is when you blindly support the US’ imposed hegemony

Edit: I didn’t realize this was imperialismbear.net. My bad.

Slava my dick and my balls

Read this book you dipshit

This is the tankie wing of the site, you may like PPB (pretty politically better) more.

Link

Okay.

What is your plan to achieve that?

because you said this i now want the full and total annexation of Ukraine, its existence is a mistake

and you’re willing to watch thousands more ukrainians die to make sure it happens!

ass take. Now call us tankies

The people of Donbass and Crimea send their regards, they’ll never again suffer Banderite barrages and death squads, EVER

Stay mad nazi lover :)

Why don’t you sign up for the Bazinga Brigade and fight for Zelensky in Ukraine?

lol

I want a pony

really a shining example of how reflexive anti-violence can be used to justify anything you want with sufficient framing and cut-off points for when you decide to start analyzing events

“well gee whiz, I have started paying attention to this issue from today onwards with an abject refusal to read even a paragraph of history and it looks like Group A has marched in to commit violence against Group B. this must be the exact same as when Group X marched in to commit violence against Group Y a few decades ago and the consensus was that Group X was bad, so therefore Group A is also bad!”

works with Russia invading Ukraine, and indeed Hamas doing October 7th. all you need is some bizarre overoveroversimplification that imperialism = violence in any capacity and you have yourself an extremely confused left-winger who starts supporting Nazi-infested NATO.

a country like Russia can be so committed to finding some kind of peace that they try and negotiate with the West for eight fucking years while the West is visibly piling troops and equipment into Ukraine and bombarding the Donbass with artillery, and yet when things finally snap, Russia is the most bloodthirsty warmongerer on the face of the planet and Putin is personally responsible for every single bad thing that happens for the decade afterwards, up to and including the results of every Western election, even ones in the past. meanwhile, the US invades Iraq on such flimsy pretenses that even the word “pretenses” is an absurd word to use and their global punishment is what exactly? oh, the endless streams of countries sanctioning the US and banning George Bush from entering their countries! oh, no worries though, you and the rest of the liberals opposed it. a decade or two after it happened instead of at the time, of course, but you got there in the end. oh, we’re all so enlightened and anti-violence and anti-invasions now. here’s a gold star, you fucking weasel.

there’s only one cure for this and it’s to read a book. luckily, Lenin’s Imperialism is right there.

the sad reality is that they don’t care one way or the other

that still operates under the misunderstanding that they listen to us at all