17 points
*

Download latest version here!

permalink
report
reply
20 points

I get the joke, but it is kind of a phishing attempt.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Arch is just as easy to install with a smaller ISO and a faster installer. Advertising EndeavourOS to inexperienced users will also lead to issues due to incompatibilities with the wiki due to dracut, the systemd firewall, and potentially systemd-boot.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

First of all: it’s a joke.

Second of all: no, Arch is not as easy to install, specially for someone who is looking at Manjaro as a possibility.

And believe me, I was once a Manjaro user.

And for 99% of Manjaro users, what they really wanted was Arch with an installer. Which is what Endeavour OS is. (Although I’ll never understand why Endeavour people didn’t just develop the tools FOR Arch instead of wrapping it all up as their own).

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Current (1,5 years in) Manjaro user here. If I’d want just an installer for Arch, I’d go with Archinstall. And I doubt I’m 1%, though nice installer might be a selling point for absolute Linux noobs.

There is plenty of experienced people using Manjaro and recognizing its strong and weak sides.

And yes, I don’t understand EndeavourOS as a separate distribution either.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

How would Arch have implemented the default installer within Arch itself?

I would argue that EOS in fact did work within Arch as they use the entire Arch repo system ( including even the kernel ). EOS adds a few utilities some of which are not even unique to EOS ( like yay and paru ).

EOS has become more opinionated about the install such as using Dracut and systemd-boot but even those come from the Arch repos.

The other thing that EOS brings is the much friendlier community.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Arch has an installer

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Well, dracut and systemd-boot both come from the Arch repos. So, I would hope the Arch wiki can handle them ( and in my experience it does ).

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Interesting that manjaro got kernel 6.9 before arch.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Nice

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Salty arch users downvoting… smh

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*

Most notably, this is the update that brings Plasma 6 to stable (also LxQt gains Qt6 support). There are other notable changes ofc but this is probably what most people were waiting for.

The release discussion thread on the Manjaro forums (includes all updates and also support sections for known issues due to any changes).

permalink
report
reply
7 points

Oh, Manjaro had version numbers? Interesting.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Always had - they even have names!

But the numbering is fairly arbitrary, as you can guess, and number normally changes with bigger updates.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’m as surprised to learn this as you seem to be.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

No matter what version you start with, a pacman -Syu brings you to the same point. But they update the install media from time to time and that is what the version numbers are capturing. How else would they track it? There are sometimes changes to how the system is installed. I have not used Manjaro in a while so I do not have any examples.

EndeavourOS is the same and also has versions and names. As an example of installer differences, they moved to KDE by default instead of Xfce just recently. Not long before that they moved to Dracut and systemd-boot. Id you installed a year ago, you would still be using GRUB and Xfce even after doing a full update as package updates do not force that kind of change.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

upgraded here. no problems. didn’t even notice the version increment until i went looking for it.

permalink
report
reply
2 points

Yeah, it’s never visible. I normally figure it out when I go check if Timeshift is operational (it always is, I just love double checking).

permalink
report
parent
reply

Linux

!linux@lemmy.ml

Create post

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

  • Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
  • No misinformation
  • No NSFW content
  • No hate speech, bigotry, etc

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

Community stats

  • 8.4K

    Monthly active users

  • 6.3K

    Posts

  • 172K

    Comments