Oops. Forgot the front cover.

39 points

“The Parker’s”.

That is the worse crime.

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Well when you stop going to school after 8th grade…

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The Parker’s give

What about their give?

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I was wondering this. The opinions they are giving belong to the Parkers.

https://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

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It’s still incorrect. “The Parkers give answers” would be correct.

Even if it was possessive, the apostrophe would still need to go after their name since there are multiple Parkers e.g. “The Parkers’ answer…”

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Thank you for posting this so I didn’t have to.

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24 points

This book looks familiar. I probably read it in the 90s when I was being taught all this shit. Learning that I was bamboozled about Noah’s flood and evolution is what pushed me completely out of Christianity.

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Same. Angry atheist phase was all just embarrassment for falling for that shit as a child.

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11 points

No reason to be embarrassed. A child has to go through some really heavy shit before they can even begin to contemplate the fact that their parents are not the shining beacons of truth we automatically assume them to be.

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I enjoyed reading the back cover blurb to my (atheist) daughter this morning, who keeps asking what things are like in Christian schools.

Her reaction went almost exactly this way: “but… fossils… prove evolution…”

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That’s why, as a Christian, I hate these books. Evangelicalism and other fundamentalist Christian groups are gonna kill Christianity.

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21 points

I think I love Bill Nye’s response about the Grand Canyon during the evolution vs creation debate.

Basically he said if the Grand Canyon was created due to the flood, why aren’t there more canyons that have similar depths? If the flood truly occurred at the same time everywhere, surely we’d see evidence of the same water erosion patterns in more places but only one exists.

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5 points

But it fits white Jesus… :(

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4 points

Facts and logic aren’t necessary when you’re religious so this question will go straight over their heads.

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And Ken Ham’s entire argument was “were you there?” which he never applied to himself.

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18 points

I am honestly a little curious about how this is spun?

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My guess is: “if evolution was real then why didn’t they evolve to survive like everything else? God drowned them all because they were evil”

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No it’s stupider and more complicated than that.

There’s too much proof evolution exists, so they had to pretend that is part of God’s plan too, but it doesn’t work like science says it does.

The Bible says Noah got 2 of every “kind” of animal. So they made up a new label for the animal Kingdom. Animals fall into different “kinds.”

Instead of getting 2 spider monkeys, 2 capuchin monkeys, two marmosets, etc, Noah got two chimpanzees. God killed every other primate species in the world with a flood. Then all the monkeys and apes we see today evolved in the 10,000 years (6,000? I forget) since they got off the ark.

So all the fossils from the flood are the species whose “kinds” were accounted for elsewhere.

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19 points

Thanks i hate it.

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Only somewhat related, but can you imagine what the smell must have been like from the trillions of human and animal corpses after that flood? I’ve thought about that plot point for years, but no one else seems to.

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One of the go-to talking points is to try to differentiate “macro-evolution” and “micro-evolution.” So they can claim to be okay with things like wolves becoming domesticated dog breeds, etc…while still opposing “the lie” of evil-lution.

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7 points

So what animals that are alive today belong to this kind?

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2 points

Wow, that is some hot bullshit right there.

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5 points

Looks like it’s still for sale in some capacity on Amazon (looked it up by the ISBN). First print was 1979, so it dates itself. The sample pages are… interesting.

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17 points

They show how fossils contradict evolution

I’ve heard most creationist talking points before but this one is new.

How do they attempt to argue that the existence of fossils contradicts evolution by natural selection?

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How do they attempt to argue that the existence of fossils contradicts evolution by natural selection?

The usual claim is that because fossils don’t show every single intermediary step that they can’t possibly be showing evolutionary change.

Yes, that arguement is as stupid as it seems.

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19th century writers did us no favors when they started using ‘missing link’ to describe gaps in the human fossil record. Creationists ran wild with the idea that there is such a thing. Of course, now we have countless examples of transitional fossils and understand that evolution is not just jumping from one species to another species with well-defined separators between those two species, subverting the whole concept of a ‘missing link.’

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Every missing link found creates two more missing links, between the new species and the ancestor and the new species and the descendant.

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Yeah it’s like arguing that a jigsaw puzzle isn’t real, despite seeing it laid out before them completely assembled but missing 6 or 7 of the hundreds of puzzle pieces.

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A lot of dinosaurs I grew up learning about never even actually existed; they just came to be because archeology played fast and loose with the bones and was just making shit up.

I could see that being used against it also.

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It wasn’t that long ago that I learned that brontosaurus wasn’t a thing. Also, I guess there’s a new ocean and one less planet? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I have not read the book myself- someone elsewhere posted the images- but if the snail thing someone else posted is from the same book, and it appears to be, the answer is: terribly.

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Ah ok, so what they mean to say isn’t so much that fossils contradict evolution but that the existence of fossils can be explained by the biblical account of Noah’s Flood.

Not the same thing of course, but then hardly surprising given the apparent level of scientific understanding on display.

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They just do. Didn’t you read the book?

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Young Earth Creationists will go off on all sorts of tangents to explain it. Like how the fossils were put there by satan to spread doubt.

Even when I was a Christian, YEC’s were the idiots we made fun of. It’s an entirely unnecessary contrivance, all because they imagine that the humans who wrote everything were infallible.

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