41 points

Hey a half a loaf. Its Zenos paradox of legalization. With progress like this, in another 40 years we’ll be another halfway there to legalization.

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It will at least open up research for cannabis drug development into FDA approved products.

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Its 10 years too late for anyone to care I think. Democrats should have just straight up legalized under Obama, and even if they legalized now, they aren’t going to be making major points off this politically. Its just jerk-off material for the commentary crowd. If it isn’t going to make a difference to peoples lived experience, it isn’t worth pursuing.

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You guys seem to think that the democrats had a fillabuster proof majority the entirety of obama’s terms.

They had two years. In those two years, they spent their capital on getting the ACA passed.

Then the 2010 midterms happened, and the dems lost any chance of anything meaningful happening.

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It also basically will legalize Medical cannabis federally. This could lead to many other benefits. Get a medical card, it’s legit with the state and the feds, then there shouldn’t be any grounds for drug tests to affect your employment.

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7 points

The big thing is federal contracts.

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9 points

For people like me who use it medicinally, this is a huge win.

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3 points

Society is like a big vehicle. It takes time to change its course. Calm down.

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Calm down.

The world doesn’t actually improve in fits an starts. Incrementalism is a fallacy. The world improves in large sweeping movements that are eventually ground backwards. We make major improvement through bold action, not trivial improvements.

I have no obligation to support a muted political movement incapable of accomplishing its purported objectives.

US Democrats could have done this a decade ago. They could have codified abortion rights. They could have made so many things a priority: they choose not to. I owe nothing to a failed approach to politics.

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US Democrats could have done this a decade ago. They could have codified abortion rights. They could have made so many things a priority: they choose not to. I owe nothing to a failed approach to politics.

I must correct you there. There is a theory that says that politics has to fulfill the will of its average voter. It can not lean further left than that. Otherwise it looses voters on the righter side.

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Ok, so… What big, sweeping things are YOU doing to make society better? Where’s your list of accomplishments?

The Democrats don’t have a perfect track record, not even close. But being part of the online peanut gallery of whiners doesn’t get us anywhere. I’m so tired of people who are all commentary and no action, people who aren’t going to be part of progress (big or small) are part of the problem no matter how smug you act about it.

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That all depends on when Democrats get congressional majority. Congress is responsible for legislative decriminalization.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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You make the assumption that Democrats (the politicians, not the voters) actually see this as a legislative priority.

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Kamala has been treating it as priority, and speaking in favor of it every chance she gets. The bill was co-sponsored by 114 Democrats.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617/cosponsors

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4 points

Which party voted for all the state level legalization efforts?

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… And it’s still illegal to carry on federal land (including boarders). This is a win but it’s a fucking minor one.

Amazingly enough after Canada legalized weed our country didn’t instantly fall into anarchy.

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Amazingly enough after Canada legalized weed our country didn’t instantly fall into anarchy.

Not yet my friend, not yet /s

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US stayes that legalized weed had all of the predicted positive outcomes like reduced crime related to weed, increased taxes because it is taxed, etc.

You know, the obvious outcomes for anyone who doesn’t buy into reefer madness.

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The oligarchs need more time to monopolize the market. Can’t have folks growing their own plants when there’s money to be made now

/s because internet

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When we know in reality they needed time push laws through so they can make sure to keep the prisons fill with slave labor.

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2 points

Big Tobacco’s held a copyright on cannabis cigarettes since the late 80s… Educate yourselves.

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24 points

Legalizing weed would drastically reduce the prison population of America.

And we all know how bad that would be.

/s

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13 points

They’ll figure out another way to get their slaves :/

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3 points

Why doesn’t anyone think of the prison owners?

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4 points

I don’t think you’ve visited enough Canadian online communities.

If you ask the internet, specifically Reddit, Galen Loblaw will arrest you for buying 30% off stewing beef at the self scan, and while you’re shopping your car will have been stolen and TFWs will have taken your job.

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Galen Weston is definitely a huge asshole, but I’d blame that one more on capitalism and greed. The weed helps us endure the price fixing bullshittery.

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TFWs will have taken your job.

That Feeling When’s?

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Those are primarily ppl larping as canucks, and the same stupid 20% of the population that believes their bullshit as any other country. Like the morons wearing maga hats at a clownvoy rally.

If you go into a thread with real Canadians in it, you will most likely not see anybody having a problem with foreign workers or immigration.

Galen Weston can fucking die though… We all agree on that.

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Still waiting on Congress to decriminalize and expunge records.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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Admittedly I’m sitting here in Winnipeg, having just taken a huge bong rip but I would sincerely challenge your claims that our country didn’t fall into anarchy post legalisation.

I’m not saying weed is the cause, in fact I believe more people should take a toke but seeing everything around me going to shit like it is, seeing it accelerate since '19 doesn’t really help with this Indica induced anxiety. Trucker convoy, campuses being taken hostage, food banks over run… This ain’t been a good run bro.

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I agree that weed wasn’t the cause - I’d also argue that it isn’t Canada as much as the whole fucking world going to pot. And, as much as I’d hate the conservatives even more, neoliberalism has been absolutely wrecking us. Things like food banks, health care, public transit, and the post service don’t need to be independently profitable. Raise our fucking taxes and fund this shit right.

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So how many other agencies have to sign off on this?

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As many as they can possibly require so that this doesn’t finish before Trump is inaugurated next year. Then he can kill it and the democrats can recycle the campaign material in 2028.

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What happened to legalization?

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In all but a handful of states, you can buy almost anything you want online and have it legally shipped to you.

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You’re talking about state law, and this is federal law

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2018 Farm Bill. I’m in Texas and get a lot of it legally delivered to my mailbox.

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The President can initiate rescheduling, but does not have the power to decriminalize (legalize) a drug on their own. That requires an act of Congress. The current bill for decriminalization and record expungement is in the House with 113 Democrat cosponsors. We’re just waiting on Republicans to come around.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617/cosponsors

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There’s two things this changes.

  1. Easier to research.

  2. We get a lot less tax money from it.

For 1, it’s not that much of a gain, we don’t need more studies to show it’s safe. That’s been accomplished, and it wasn’t that hard to do a study the last couple years.

For 2, tax money was the biggest reason states could be convinced to legalize.

There’s a little bit of a 3 involved. I forget the specifics from an earlier article, but I read something about while a lower schedule may let them transition from cash only to banking, the DEA can still seize all their funds because it’s on the schedule. It’s just now they can do it from a computer.

When they don’t use banks, at least the DEA had to actually show up and steal seize their cash.

So say a Republican takes office and is pissed at Cali, he can tell the DEA to freeze and seize the bank accounts of every business and person connected to the cannabis industry.

And it’d all be 100% legal, take very little effort, and can easily be converted into some kind of “border security” bullshit like building a giant pointless wall.

I dunno, lately I keep getting frustrated at people never realizing what shit can naturally lead to. Maybe my standards for planning ahead need lowered?

I just don’t understand why this is acceptable when Biden told us decriminalization was the goal.

A co.plete removal from the schedule would have been that, and would have accomplished a lot and taken the same effort as this. I don’t see why we don’t try to actually fix shit.

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I don’t see why we don’t try to actually fix shit.

Because then they can’t keep kicking the can down the road for the next election.

Gotta keep that voter base involved somehow, and when you aren’t actually gonna give them anything to be happy about, you’ve got to trot out nice little lies you’ll never follow through with to make them get out to vote.

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Exactly why I’m not playing this year. I give up.

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3 points

username checks out

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Biden is right of Reagan.

Get a clue.

Dems are not in favor of legalization. Neither are liberals.

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Biden is right of Reagan.

On which policies?

Dems are not in favor of legalization.

Then why has literally every single legalization come from democrats?

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Man I hope you’re the dumbest motherfucker on this website. I don’t think I can take anything worse.

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