11 points

Is it a lemmy issue or a jerboa issue?

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I would say Lemmy issue. This is probably a default 502 internal sever error response (which I’ve been getting repeatedly from lemmy.world). Jerboa (I don’t use it btw) is only trying to parse the expected json response. Yes the app could handle the error more gracefully but if Lemmy didn’t respond with an error jerboa wouldn’t need to.

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personally I’d say it’s a Jerboa thing. the app should retry loading because sometimes I refresh after this happening and it immediately loads the proper content.

with all the different instances this sort of thing has to be kept in mind

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Just retry is usually a bad ideia, specially that this problem is probably an overload, just adding retries can makes the problem.even worse with the app ddosing the server

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Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

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Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

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The error is not being emitted by Lemmy though. The 502 error message is returned to the client by nginx when the Lemmy server doesn’t respond within the a certain time.

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Yeah this makes more sense than my original comment

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41 points

Serious Answer: This is a Jerboa issue. Lemmy is written in Rust. The error message is a Java error which is what native Android apps use.

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I think it’s both, actually. Lemmy is often giving html where json is expected, and Jerboa isn’t handling the error well.

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21 points

🤔 The server spits out html when it cannot reach the backend. So one could argue it’s a configuration issue because the admin didn’t provide enough capacity / didn’t set up a proper generic json error for backend failures.

FWIW, Liftoff doesn’t handle these super gracefully either.

At any rate I think it’s kinda awesome that we get to witness these kinds of infancy problems.

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Well, what should Jerboa do? Pretend it received content?

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No, it’s probably when the app is expecting a json but the server returns an html, which usually happens in case of 502 errors.

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You really shouldn’t be expecting any content type when you get any code but a 200. If anything you should expect HTML, then, possibly plain text but that’s a subset (given a loose enough definition of html).

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No, this is a lemmy issue. The API specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, this is a bug in the server. I agree that Jebora should retry in the case of a network failure (timeout, 4xx staus codes…) but it should not have to retry in a case of a server that is not folowing the standard.

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lemmy does not return 502 error codes because 502 means “bad gateway” and lemmy is not acting as a gateway, nginx is. An nginx sends the html. All apps should check the status code for codes like this one that don’t come from apps.

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If it’s Jerboa/Android app issue, why do I get JSON errors using Lemmy on my desktop PC with Firefox? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I have very little programming knowledge.

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3 points

Definitely jerboa

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1 point

I’m having similar errors using liftoff

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I’m having similar errors using liftoff

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imo wefwef is the best lemmy client app for iOS/android

https://wefwef.app

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Lmao I got a 504 when trying to open this post

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Lemmy is written in rust, that’s a java error so the issue lies with the app you’re using not Lemmy itself (maybe)

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The cause is a 502 from lemmy.

Jerboa’s handling of that error is also terrible but that’s another issue.

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Memmy doesn’t do well with it either.

Of course it doesn’t bode well for the instance itself that it’s throwing so many…but it’s unclear if that’s an operator problem or a code base problem.

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It could also just be a server load issue.

Lemmy.world, the community the instance is hosted on, has been having a few issues between the 0.18.1 update, and the amount of users on the platform.

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3 points

Is there a good Lenny app because so far wefwef hasn’t been great for me.

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3 points

Thunder but features aren’t all there

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13 points

Jerboa or just in the browser. Honestly though most people’s issues are likely to be because they joined a huge instance which is falling over due to load. Consider making a new account on a smaller instance.

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4 points

I am using Memmy at the moment and it’s well decent

https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy

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4 points

Can you explain why? Are you using wefwef on Android?

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4 points

I’m using it on iOS and don’t get me wrong the app looks beautiful. I’m finding issues with communities not loading posts, comments or general sync issues. I have an issue where trying to reply to a comment would overlay the comments over the textfield.

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@Binderfullofpizza In my opinion, Memmy is the best native app at the moment (for iOS).

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Thanks I’ll give that a shot.

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6 points

Wefwef has been the best for me so far. I’m a previous Boost for Reddit user, so I’m still waiting for their official Lemmy release and then I’ll switch.

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9 points

Liftoff is the best I’ve found so far. Waiting for Sync to come though

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6 points

Same. RIP sync, long live sync!

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I am quite liking liftoff. It has a slightly different layout to wefwef and you can customize it a bit if you don’t like the default colours.

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What’s so bad with wefwef? I’m using it righty now and enjoying it.

(Also, Memmy is another great Apollo-based app.)

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