The only thing its missing is Biden being down in the deep end of the boat drilling more holes.
Your hurr durr raisin brain level of analysis seems to miss that I actually want Biden to win.
I just want him to actually make the job of getting him elected fucking possible instead of doing shit like this:
Yet strangely you focus on Biden instead of his opponent’s stance… Your hypocrisy is showing.
More like maintaining the current flow of water thru plugging and drilling additional holes.
Its at least a 5:1 ratio of making more holes versus plugging.
And there is only one hole he needs to plug to be back in this, and its the US relationship with Israel and their ongoing genocide in Palestine.
He sure isn’t making the job of the people trying to carry water for him easy:
This might have been true in the past, but Biden has been too busy putting rainbow stickers on the outside of the boat to use a bucket.
I’m not saying the recognition is bad, but ffs actually try to plug the holes. He was elected basically saying “I’m not going to make things worse” and he’s barely kept that promise. Don’t know why people thought he would actually make things better
And here is the part where I can list point after point of actually good things Biden has done, and the response will inevitably be “Well, it doesn’t matter that he’s done all of that, because I don’t FEEL like he’s done enough.”
I’m sure you could. Are queer people actually safer under Biden? Or has their safety just not gotten worse? Abortion rights? Health care? Separating families at the border? Has the average American’s life actually improved or is it just “not worse”?
And here is the part where you list all the excuses about why Biden and the Dems couldn’t do anything about those things. And yet, they’re gonna continue to campaign and ask for money on a combination of “we’re gonna do those things” and “OMG Trump scary”. And then they won’t actually act on them.
Like every time Republicans go more fascist, Democrats see it as an excuse to move to the right and go “vote for the not fascist”. Fool me in 2016, shame on me. Fool me again in 2020, shame on you. Play the same goddamn game in 2024, I’m not sure what to say anymore.
And before you say it, I caucused in 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. I’ve tried to change things from the inside. The absolute bullshit I saw at EVERY LEVEL made me nauseated. I’ve watched as politicians left the Republican Party, came to the Democratic Party, continued voting with the Republicans AND WERE HIGHLY FUNDED BY THE DEM PARTY OF MY STATE. And they still are! I watched as “progressive policies” like “let’s push against Republicans trying to privatize Medicare” were tabled because they didn’t want to “offend moderates” EVEN WHEN THEY POLLED AT 70%+ of folks polled in the state opposed privatization.
They are a lost cause beyond all repair. They may have not lead the march into fascism, but they sure as hell haven’t done anything to slow it down.
I’m sure you could. Are queer people actually safer under Biden? Or has their safety just not gotten worse? Abortion rights? Health care? Separating families at the border? Has the average American’s life actually improved or is it just “not worse”?
It’s funny, because I could answer all of those, and the inevitable response back would be “But Republicans are working against it, so it doesn’t count”
I’ve been through this song and dance too many times.
Like every time Republicans go more fascist, Democrats see it as an excuse to move to the right and go “vote for the not fascist”. Fool me in 2016, shame on me. Fool me again in 2020, shame on you. Play the same goddamn game in 2024, I’m not sure what to say anymore.
You think… Democrats are further right now, in 2024… than they were in 2004.
Okay. You have fun with that delusion.
Man imagine literally admitting that “the other side are actual fascists” isn’t enough a reason alone for you to fall the fuck in line and still thinking you have any moral ground to stand on.
Big “Bridal Shower at a Gay Bar” kinda ally energy you’re bringing here.
Abortion rights
My brother
Separating families at the border
You are aware that one of Biden’s first acts was to start a task force to try to reunite the separated families, which was difficult because the fucking monsters that were his predecessors hadn’t even bothered to keep detailed records of who the parents were for all these random uncared-for children that they still had in custody, sometimes too young to take care of themselves i.e. just bopping around with shit all over them or with life-threatening levels of neglect such that random visitors had to demand that they get taken in their unresponsive state to the hospital?
You can certainly cherry-pick some particular ways in which some particular aspect of life isn’t much better under Biden than under Trump, although you’ll have to carefully tiptoe around or mischaracterize some particular issues. Even the stuff you picked, though, winds up including some massive examples of why Biden is objectively better.
Back to voting third party. Which is where I was before younger me was convinced that it was “throwing away my vote”
Well yes because younger you was deemed worthy of polite correction.
You’re old enough to be able to do the fucking math and understand your role as effectively being the neighbor who turned in Anne Frank by not voting against the creation of the American Morality Police.
Chips act, green energy via IRA, union empowerment, student debt, marijuana reform, infrastructure (build back better), drug price controls, etc etc etc. Non-competes banned (by FTC, but apparently was voted for along ‘party lines’).
But you want to say he’s not making things better.
“We elected him once and our boat isn’t flying!1! Why isn’t he doing anything?!?” (/s)
Like, fuck, Biden was like, my third least favorite pick in the 2020 primaries. And he’s risen to maybe middle-of-the-pack by his actions (that is to say, I wasn’t expecting much, but I was mildly pleasantly surprised), compared to his 2020 peers. I’m not exactly his fucking fanboy, I just recognize that he’s not a Republican fucking ghoul. But the way people seem to judge actions in complete ignorance of how our government works, or of how fucking byzantine the processes even just for passing, much less implementing, legislature is… it’s exhausting, frustrating, and infuriating.
Like, fuck, Biden was like, my third least favorite pick in the 2020 primaries.
Behind Bloomberg and DeLaney.
DeLaney wasn’t even on my radar. I apologize for being an ardent Bernie voter with Warren as my second choice; I understand that basically makes me a conservative in the eyes of Lemmy’s Very Serious Leftist Brigade.
The way people talk around here you’d think the president was a monarch. I know that’s the way Trump and his sycophants want it or believe to be true, but Biden is only 1/3rd of the entire government.
If we could get people to turn out to vote in local elections, we might actually see some reforms over a period of couple years that could lead to lasting change, at least on a local level, but long term planning is impossible to sell when everybody demands a strongman who can solve every problem or issue on the federal level right now.
A little later:
“Okay SURE the boat is flying but as a strong leftist advocate I really think it’s problematic how he’s treated the underpaid people who build flying boat motors, and I think we need to focus more on what Biden should be doing better to convince me to vote for him against the hole-drilling-and-baby-punching club, because I think probably I’ll sit this one out”
Also “sure, the boat’s flying now and we aren’t drowning, but what we really need is to get to land, being in a boat doesn’t even make sense. So I’m going to sit this one out because both parties want us in the boat. What’s that? The other party’s trying to sink the boat before we get to land? I don’t care, it’s about the principle of wanting to be on land!”
“I don’t see the boat flying, see this is the whole problem with the Democrats is that when people tell them they’re HURTING they just break out all these figures about altitude and tell you to stick your hand out the boat and see if you can touch the water, that’s super condescending and not very productive and unresponsive to criticism, it’s like a cult man, blue MAGA amirite, so anyway I’m definitely not voting for them NOW because now you hurt my feelings.”
Israel is committing genocide, and that’s not the only thing happening in the world right now.
In a world full of ‘flying boats’, asking why we aren’t also flying is valid
Nobody reasonable is asking for the impossible, we’re asking for what those who are “worse off” financially have
Brandon 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth. The fascists must be made to suffer.
Man, I would just like to not be in line for losing all ability to influence my government, and very likely in line for escalated genocide all across the globe. I don’t need the fascists to suffer, I just need them to not run my fucking life, and preferably, not anyone else’s either.
Hey democrats, try plugging the hole.
This is honestly the perfect microcosm of liberal thought. Just continuously posting low effort shitposts that literally state in the meme how ineffective and in-bed with fascists liberals are.
We have OP coming into the comments acting like a holier than thou liberal, repeating the same vapid bullshit over and over.
Meanwhile, Democrats just keep dumping one little bucket at a time as the boat gets lower and lower while screaming in tears at the guy trying to find the fucking life raft.
“And fuck no, I’m not voting for you in November”
Liberals in fucking hysterics throwing a tantrum about why leftists comprising 1% of the vote don’t like their blue MAGA instead of targeting the 60% republican vote with actual popular policy
Lmao fuck liberals, y’all deserve to lose.
“There is no genocide in Gaza”
Yes, yes, we get it, you find the idea of American minorities being murdered thrilling, and support all the aid to Israel Trump can muster. You can stop crowing about it from the top of every roof.
Are we forgetting that biden is currently the president and loves genocide so much that he refuses to stop supporting it, even though it’s costing him votes? If the best you can offer is “not the other guy” then all you’re telling us is that things will get worse no matter what.
It’s the over-the-top sarcasm and insincere indignation that galls me
Then they’ll inevitably try claiming that yea, it’d be nice if we had someone with better politics but NOW’S NOT THE TIME TO MAKE A FUSS
insincere indignation
Yeah, how dare those uppity minorities get agitated over the prospect of becoming legally second-class citizens or outright murdered. If only we knew our place, quietly accepting the Principled Stand of the Privileged in our honor!
