President Joe Biden said Friday that he is planning to request more money from Congress to develop another new coronavirus vaccine, as scientists track new waves and hospitalizations rise, though not like before

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Yes, keep making more vaccines but don’t make people wear masks and keep distances. Theres literally nothing we can do to prevent diseases spreading besides vaccines. Surely covid was the last virus to threaten us.

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You’re the first anti-vax, pro-mask person I’ve ever seen.

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19 points

Mate, im not anti vax. Im simply saying that the vaccine is not the only way for us to defend against diseases. We can do things to prevent them, much cheaper and quite reasonable things.

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Vaccinations are by far the cheapest way to defend against a disease like COVID at scale. You are being disingenuous.

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13 points

Masks required a large chunk of the population to follow the rules, which will never happen sadly

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We really ought to make jobs that can be remote have to justify undue hardship to RTO too.

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6 points

Okay, but updated vaccines are still vital, as is funding them.

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12 points

When do we stop wearing masks, in your estimation? Never, since airborne diseases will always exist?

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When you’re not breathing ten centimeters away from me. Thank you

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Oh, so since I’m not breathing ten centimeters from your face, does that mean now?

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I’m immunocompromised and have to stop some of my drugs to take the vaccines. There’s no way I can do it again.

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Imagine downvoting someone expressing their legitimate experience with a challenging problem they face.

Or you got downvote brigaded. Either way, this is a valid concern but unfortunately just underlines the reality of being immunocompromised - you are vulnerable and it is the responsibility of your friends family and neighbors to think about the vulnerable and do these things to protect people like you so you can live as long and healthy as possible.

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Yeah, it’s kind of wild. The original point of herd immunity was to cover for people that for whatever reason couldn’t vaccinate. Luckily, the array of bullshit I’m on hasn’t caused huge problems past feeling like shit and becoming lactose intolerant.

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Oh that’s a fun one with the autoimmune disorders. They always list the same stuff, celiac chrons lactose intolerance etc etc.

Hopin they make some dope breakthroughs for the group of disorders overall and make some big leaps soon! ♥️

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Then you should pray that everybody else does, you know

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I don’t do magic, but, yeah, I’ll have to be careful.

I just can’t do it again. I’ll kill myself before going through more pain like that. I just got my meds back after having to stop one for a while over liver enzymes. I like being able to button my pants and shower. Being able to work and make money is also lovely.

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Every day i’m thankful to the people who voted Biden/Harris and ousted the criminal fascist trump admin. THANK YOU from Canada.

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So, just a general message to all the commenters who are eye-rolling this:

Viruses mutate, and COVID has mutated continuously since it has been in the wild. All those shots did serve a purpose to continue to provide protection, and that this one will too.

You’re tired? Viruses don’t get tired. It’s not only a good thing, it’s a miracle that we even are able to keep up with these mutations and almost completely mitigate the risk of, oh, just death and life-long debilitating symptoms with a 15 minute visit to the doctor to get a shot every so often.

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Yeah, we all know that viruses mutate. That’s like 4th grade science. We all know that new vaccines would be part of the deal. After all they roll out a new flu vaccine every year. I’m not saying that Covid is comparable in devastation to the flu. I’m just saying that anyone who even halfway knows how things work knew this would be the deal.

That’s why I don’t care. I knew from the beginning that this would be how this played out. It’s not a bad thing. I’m not an “anti-vaxer”. Everybody should get their yearly Covid vaccine and flu vaccine.

But when you knew this is how it would work all along it’s not really news is it? It kind of feels like they are just distracting from providing real help to struggling people.

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Viruses mutate, and COVID has mutated continuously since it has been in the wild. All those shots did serve a purpose to continue to provide protection, and that this one will too.

It’s somewhat baffling that this needs repeating after three years of COVID, but yet here we are.

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the ones that really need to ‘hear’ it at this point, won’t ever ‘listen’, regardless of how often it’s repeated.

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Not even the doctor. I’ve never once gone to the doctor to get a COVID shot. Once a clinic and the rest of the time CVS or Kroger or whoever has the most convenient appointment time.

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7 points

First time visiting our city’s new sports stadium was ending the pandemic with a long queue of people getting vaccinated.

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Currently, at least 5 main lineages, with several sub-lineages among Omicron, at least. Wikipedia only marks Omicron as a variant of concern right now, and the others are considered out of circulation among the general population. I couldn’t find WHO data easily on their website, however.

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I kinda dislike what the WHO has done with Omicron though. It has had so many lineage variants over the past year that we should have had 4-5 official new named variants by this point, but they seem to be avoiding doing that for some reason.

So we’re dealing with unofficial sub-names now with the currently rising Eris variant and the emerging Pirola variant.

They are so genetically different from Omicron at this point that they make Omicron look like the same lineage as Delta.

So, yeah, it’s been aggravating me that they haven’t been officially recognizing these still ongoing pandemic variants.

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We had 1 chance to eradicate COVID and that was when countries first started locking down. We failed… Miserably. So now COVID is endemic, meaning it is NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY. We will be going in for COVID and Flu shots every year for the foreseeable future. If we are lucky, they’ll eventually be able to roll the flu and COVID shots into one inoculation.

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The terrible part being that Covid is several times more deadly than the flu, so we’re going to have 60,000 more deaths on average per year than we used to. And that’s only until some other viral epidemic occurs.

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Who fucking cares. I’m so tired of the coronavirus. I got the first vaccine, and all 3 boosters. Plus I caught corona. Twice. I don’t fucking care any more. Let’s talk about housing. Let’s talk about minimum wage. Let’s talk about healthcare. I’d take dental care and optical at this point.

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Huh. So you’re saying all my sister, father-in-law, sister-in-law, brother-in-law, and cousins have to do to get over their various long COVID symptoms is declare they’re tired of it? Holy shit, I’m calling them all right away!

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I’m saying. If they are already dealing with long Covid a new vaccine isn’t going to fix that. Sure, it may keep them from catching it again, but They’ll still have long Covid until they don’t.

Covid isn’t going away at this point. EVER. This is now something we have to live with. There will now be a constant threat of covid hanging over our heads. I’m not saying that new vaccines shouldn’t be developed, but it also shouldn’t be big news. Every year a new flu vaccine comes out, and every year a new Covid vaccine will have to roll out. This is life now.

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COVID-19 still kills at least ten times the number of people that the flu does, causes far more hospitalizations, and leaves far more people with debilitating long-term illness. Until that changes, I am absolutely fine with getting information out there when a new and improved vaccine is in the works or ready, and I’m having trouble understanding why someone wouldn’t be.

No one’s forcing you to read news about it. You could have skipped this article.

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I’m saying. If they are already dealing with long Covid a new vaccine isn’t going to fix that. Sure, it may keep them from catching it again, but They’ll still have long Covid until they don’t.

Sorry, but your assumption is wrong. Available studies show post-COVID vaccination may be able to help long COVID symptoms.

“Three of the five studies of vaccination after the infection showed significant reductions in patients with long covid, but none showed any harm of vaccination.”

From this study: https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000385

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Aw honey.

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Ok. And?

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I don’t care about it, so that means we shouldn’t focus on it anymore!

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I didn’t say that we shouldn’t focus on it. But here’s a question for ya. How much is this new vaccine going to cost Americans? I mean the same people that charge ridiculous amounts of money for insulin aren’t going to give away vaccines right? Is the US government going to pay for these vaccines for everyone? All the vaccines in the world do no good if people can’t afford them.

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They said it late in the pandemic too: we may be tired of that virus but unfortunately it doesn’t care and it is not done with us.

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Oh, I know. Is this vaccine going to be free? I would like the new vaccine. Like, I’m not an anti-vaxxer. But I literally just had to take out a loan to get a tooth filled. How much will this vaccine cost? Because like you said. This virus isn’t done with us. It never will be. How much are the yearly vaccines going to cost Americans?

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“I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but am going to post multiple comments saying we shouldn’t keep making new vaccines because they would cost a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of US spending.”

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Good for you bud and so happy that you don’t give a shit anymore! So sorry that you can’t seem to understand that a virus that kills people other than you is a bad thing.

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Oh, I think you misunderstood. First off i think everyone should get vaccinated. Like, I would like to get the new vaccine. But how long are these vaccines going to be free in America? After all the flu vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford one of those. Shingles vaccine isn’t free. I can’t afford that either, and I’ve had shingles. It fucken hurts.

If you even halfway paid attention in grade school science, or realized that a new flu virus is rolled out every year to combat the new strains. You knew this is how the vaccine situation was going to work. If you knew from the beginning that this is how vaccines work. Well, it’s not exactly news is it?

Meanwhile my rent doubled in 3 years. I literally just took out a loan to get a tooth filled. I live everyday in pain from TMJ.

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Ugh, if only we knew we could have fixed it years ago by saying we’re tired of it. That would have saved a lot of hassle.

Research into vaccines doesn’t preclude any of those conversations and coronavirus still uses up lots of health resources. Better vaccines for new variants would help healthcare in general.

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So, I guess you don’t know how viruses work? Well they mutate really fast. So you constantly have to make new vaccines to deal with the new variants. See, if you had known this about viruses. Then you would have known from the beginning that new vaccines at least every year would be part of the deal, and then this wouldn’t be news at all.

I think everyone should get their vaccine if they can afford it. After all in America flu vaccines cost money, and I guarantee these new COVID vaccines won’t be free. I mean at some point these pharmaceutical companies have to make money right?

That’s why I’m tired of it. I want the vaccine. Hell, I want treatment for TMJ. But if you can’t afford it. All the cool new vaccines in the world won’t matter.

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You tired, but the virus doesn’t

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If we all sit completely still maybe the virus will just pass over us. We could commemorate that day and turn it into a holiday and call it “Overpass” or something.

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