FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX 2023

Circuit stats
First Grand Prix 1952
Number of laps 72
Lap record 1:11.097 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
2022 winner Max Verstappen

24 points

What a horrible weekend for Charles.

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4 points

No kidding. Ferrari dropped the ball, and quite badly.

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3 points

Probably better to have a damaged car on a weekend where Charles isnt 100% fit than on a different one

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4 points

Correct choice to retire though.

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3 points

Ferrari just wtf this season.

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21 points

Wet tires will probably never be used (unless enforced), even if the conditions are clearly full wet.

Teams are so greedy with staying on the inters so that even if some drivers pit for full wets, the race will inevitably be red flagged because someone staying on the inters will crash, which then makes you look silly for pitting for full wets a lap or two earlier.

Granted that they reinstated the positions of the previous lap so Perez is actually fine, but let Zhou crash one lap later and Red Bull would’ve been punished with Perez for doing the right thing for safety and to try and keep the race going.

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I call the full wets β€œred flag tyres” cos we never see them on a car during a race for more than a lap without a red flag

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3 points

The teams say that the wet tires are unusable. Pirelli would need to rework the formula for this compound for the teams to be happy with it

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4 points

I think it’s more about the visibility rather than the tyre compound.

The ground effect cars suck all the water up and spray it into the air, making it dangerous for anyone outside the first few positions

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6 points

I think everyone agrees with that, apparently even perelli have called it the safety car tire…

I think the best suggestion was to make a much better tire between the two if they can - that reduced the amount of tires they are lugging around too.

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3 points

Make the full wet better or the inter worse or add a third option, but something needs to change. Visibility concerns have been a legitimate issue in past races, but that definitely wasn’t the case today.

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3 points

Full Wets should be mandated for all teams in these conditions for a set # of laps. That would eliminate the teams gamesmanship, increase safety and avoid the embarrassing red flags. F1 is so poorly run.

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20 points

When Alpine gets on the podium

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Max on radio: πŸ˜ƒ

Alonso on radio:πŸ˜πŸ˜€

Gasly on radio: 😁😁😁😁🀯🀯🀯🀯😎😎😎

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13 points

Speaking as a dutchie. There really is no crowd better than the dutch at setting a great mood. Especially in bad weather.

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6 points

Was it the Dutch GP where there were allegations of sexual harassment last year? Or was that somewhere else? I dont quite remember

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Apparently so. I didn’t know about his but just read up on it. 15 cases quite bad. They stepped up measures this year. Hopefully there are no cases this year however we won’t know till after.

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4 points

I think it was Austria that made the news last year, but there were a lot of Dutch fans

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3 points

I can’t think of many sporting events in the States that would have that same sort of response to a rain delay.

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