Hi all! I used to be a daily r/selfhosted lurker and a bit active user. Since the Reddit saga I thought that r/selfhosted would be one of the first and bigger community to move to Lemmy due to the IT knowledge of all of their users and the sensitivity about self host/privacy/open source, but I see that not only the community is still all there, but it’s rising. :( That really makes me sad. How can we convince the mods there to move people here? Is it allowed to talk about Lemmy on Reddit or do we risk of being banned?

310 points

Stop obsessing about Reddit and create a content on Lemmy instead. People will come once they see there’s enough activity here.

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19 points

I’d prefer if we stopped bringing up Reddit altogether. We no longer use the platform, we should be happy with what we have here instead of constantly peeping into the neighbor’s garden.

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4 points

Yah but that seems to be what lemmy is turning out to be and I don’t see it being sustainable.

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22 points

Exactly. Chill out. It’s not a competition.

Just hang out and enjoy the community.

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5 points

This is the third ng. Fuck reddit. Just post and it’s all G

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1 point

The OP has double the posts you do?

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10 points

It’s still a correct statement

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It’s not an obsession! Simply if all the good poster/commenter that are there would come here, this place would be better!

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11 points

I am not a good boi?

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6 points

Be the change you want to see.

You thought they were the leaders. They’re the followers, staying near the crowd.

Building communities is hard and takes time.

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276 points

My favorite r/selfhosted comment.

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52 points

Same with r/antiwork they closed briefly and when Reddit sneezed their way, they opened the sub instantly. Talking about hypocrisy.

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50 points

There’s a lot of subs like these which I don’t want to name. Basically, subs with anti-corpo principles but refuses to leave corpo Reddit. I’m happy for the subs who are still dark even until now (and even more reason to be now that Reddit is deleting older DMs and removing awards/coins).

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18 points

Why not name them? Personally, I’m most disappointed in r/cyberpunk. They kind of proved they are all about neon lights.

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Basically, subs with anti-corpo principles but refuses to leave corpo Reddit.

See also: Discord

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1 point

It’s the old, stay in bed with the devil instead of sleeping in the cold.

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31 points

Well, imho, at least half of r/antiwork posts were escapist fiction of how one should have replied to their manager.

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25 points

I guess moving to lemmy was too much work.

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19 points

Ahahaha, top message!!!

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Everyone there probably decided not to self-host because they can’t hide it behind their VPN lol

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If you look at the charts you linked, you can see the users activity (post per day and comments per day) is falling sharply since last month. Subscribers count mean nothing if a big proportion of the active posters leave.

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Makes sense, the people who have both the tech knowledge and conviction on the advantages of selfhosting, were probably the most active posters.

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19 points

The new subscribers are probably bots.

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100% how spez started out initially and made it appear that reddit had a lot of activity. So this definitely smells like spez-tricks

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10 points

Post per day seams steady at about 30/40, comment per day seams to have dropped from 3/400 to 250/300, I would have expected a great fall.

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If you compare post per days from before the strike, it definitely falls. It’s no longer an upward trajectory despite subscribers growth.

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Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if spez is bolstering subscriber numbers for larger subs with bot accounts

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1 point

You need to compare with the same period last year.

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It’s interesting how Lemmy shows active users before subscribing. Even reddit shows “readers” (people currently online), but people hyperfocus on subscribers (which can be dead accounts).

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91 points

The change will come once people start searching for stuff on Google and they get results which link back to lemmy. For that to happen we need people asking for help/feedback and getting their answers here.

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The most useful comment in this entire thread, the search results are a bit of a mess currently and that’s a huge stumbling block.

I tried a simple search query with lemmy and the way results come back is not good

it’s going to take a long time for that to change but just as a casual user I doubt I’d click anything past the first few reddit links.

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7 points

The fact we’re on the first screen of results is progress! 🎉

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It’s definitely progress and seeing myself in one of the top results was nice but it’s going to take a lot more work and tbh the decentralised nature of the links might also hurt because clicking on the dbzero link looks like a hackerman link if you know what I mean

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1 point

You can’t do site:website.com due to all the different instances

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27 points

I’m happy to help provide answers on my fields of interests but they are pretty much dead on Lemmy for now, it’s a chicken and egg thing.

It doesn’t help that because we don’t really have good algorithms, my feed is dominated by generalist topics, memes, news and tech stuff. So even if I subscribe to smaller communities, if I don’t intentionally go visit them they’re never in my feed.

We need to better surface posts from smaller communities by having a weighted algorithm so that your feed is a mix of big and small communities.

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This was actually mentioned in an issue on the github. I can’t quite remember whether it was turned down or just inactive. I totally agree. If we’re going to compete with big social medias then we also need some kind of algorithms. Opt-in/out of course.

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Isn’t Hot supposed to work like that? When it’s not broken, of course.

I feel like some simple algorithm like the ones used in dithering may be used to mix up the feed.

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4 points

My understanding was that hot was just posts with rapidly increasing upvotes, but it’s still not weighed between big and small (could definitely be wrong).

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13 points

Google’s algorithm might actively down-rank Lemmy sites though, as the messages appear duplicated on multiple sites, which is usually a sign of SEO blog spam.

Probably needs a change on Google’s side to better recognize federated websites. Not impossible that they will do this, lets see.

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24 points

As of v0.18.2, Lemmy marks the “original URL” as the canonical URL so search engines know which page is the “real” one. Shouldn’t that help?

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Maybe? I guess Google would need to actively look for that.

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4 points

Hmm does Lemmy need search engine optimization? I have no idea how seo works these days :/

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2 points

correct and also back linking on our blogs/medium posts/etc…

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59 points

Well firstly, why do you care about being banned if you’re leaving Reddit?

Come to terms with Reddit not dying overnight. Lemmy isn’t going to vanish if people don’t move over straight away. Reddit will eventually succumb to the 1000s of tiny self-inflicted cuts. Post content that isn’t on Reddit and people will have a motivation to stay here.

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Make Lemmy the place to be when reddit kills the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing. Yeah we’re small, but we’re something crazy like almost 10x the size we were before the 3rd party app shitshow.

We aim to be the place where people can migrate to next time reddit causes a freakout, like killing old reddit

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