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Convincing people that no matter who you vote for, we’ll keep paying for the genocide is not a good strategy.

All that will do is make empathetic people not vote, and when turnout is low, republicans win.

Dems can’t run in fear based politics about what the other side wants to do, the people that shit works on are already Republicans.

Dem voters want to hear about what Dems will do to help.

It is very very hard to change that, because it’s literally how our brains work.

Dems tend to have larger prefrontal cortex (empathy and critical thinking) while Republicans have waaaay more amygdala activity (fear, flight/fright/freeze).

What appeals to one group, doesn’t appeal to the other. But both groups cater to conservatives and hope they can guilt trip high empathy voters.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.neuropsych.16030051

The people running the Dem party need to learn some fucking empathy and realize just because deep down they’re closer to conservatives than liberals, and that voters aren’t motivated by the same shit.

I mean, we could just replace party leaders with empathetic people who understand their voters, but I’m not holding my breath.

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You’re 1000% correct with this analysis

Dems can’t run in fear based politics about what the other side wants to do, the people that shit works on are already Republicans.

This is what’s so disheartening about the modern day DNC, as this seems to be their only campaign strategy since 2016. In a way, what they’re actually doing is normalizing and manufacturing consent for the repugnantcon platform.

“Not Trump” is the lowest possible bar, and the most pathetic part about it is sometimes Biden manages to fall short of it. Get off the fear based bs and lead with some substance Dems!

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Did you seriously just turn trump talking about deporting us citizens because they are saying something he doesn’t like into “but here is why the democrats suck”?

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If the Dems only standard is:

Not trump

While I agree it’s good to at least maintain that, it’s not enough to get the votes need to beat Trump.

It barely worked when he was in office, why wouldn’t 24 be more like 16 than 20?

I don’t think people understand that when the candidates are as bad as Biden and trump, that being an incumbent is a disadvantage.

If you think people want Biden as president, you’re not paying attention

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I think there is very much an argument for working to get Democrats we actually WANT to vote for down ballot so that we actually have someone “good” in 4 years.

Having the other candidate openly talk about violating the rights of a significant part of the country is not that moment. And the fact that you want to turn this into an attack on the Democrats makes me REALLY suspicious of what your actual motives are.

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This isn’t about Biden or Trump, at least not directly. This is about trying to save as many Palestinian lives as possible, assuming you actually care about them and aren’t just using them for political points.

The ideal situation is that the war ends and Israel completely fucks off. But the ideal solution is not a viable option currently. One candidate is keeping the status quo while criticizing Israel, or and the other candidate wants to intensifying the bombings and attacks on civilians and praises Israel.

Forget the names behind the candidates. Are you truly telling me that there’s no difference between these two candidates, and that one option does not kill countless more Palestinians than the other option?

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Democrats do need a clearer distinction between themselves and Republicans on this issue.

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Yes, Trump agrees with neoliberals regarding anti-genocide protesters.

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But what is Genocide Joe going to do to earn MY vote.

South Park turned a whole fucking generation into “but both sides suck” idiots.

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He’s not gonna be Trump. Got my vote.

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Biden is required to ship weapons to Israel by law. He is doing what he can to limit Israel’s carnage. Remember the USS Liberty? Israel doesn’t care about anyone other than Israel.

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Thank you for that link. It will be helpful.

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A lot of people are unaware of Jonathan Pollard too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

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Yup.

Would I like a better candidate? Of course. Do I want to cause untold suffering to myself and the people I love? Nope.

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Not even just the people you love. This article makes it exceptionally clear that if you actually care about the Palestinians, Trump winning is the absolute worst case scenario.

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Bingo.

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Whatever “genocide person” does for you is irrelevant. You are someone desperately asking for others to solve your problems. At worst the rest of us will solve your problems, otherwise you might do it yourself but I have my doubts…

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Well, I’m glad then that the democrats aren’t violently suppressing free speech too.

Oh wait.

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Right now, it’s local officials, not the executive branch doing it in a coordinated way. We don’t, for example, have the border patrol and FBI driving around in minivans with no insignia and name patch and snatching people off the street like we had during the Black Lives Matter protests under Trump.

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It’s the legislative branch that just had a bipartisan movement to declare the protests illegal. Many democrats have publicly embraced the viewpoint that any anti-Israel speech is a hate crime. Even if Biden somehow manages to pull a win out of November, attacks by the president and congress are going to continue, and get much worse if people refuse to back down and adopt government sanctioned speech.

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So he’s gonna duplicate what’s going on right now?

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Are you familiar with republican foreign policy?

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Yes, it looks exactly like Democrat foreign policy, Republicans and Democrats use the same US imperialistic agenda to retain their power and dominance over other countries. When they both use people like Henry Kissinger as a foreign policy advisor, the end game is still the same

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Keep it going! They are the same because history! They both USED Kissinger!

Foreign policy is clearly beyond your grasp.

With your approach… The end game seems to be ignorance.

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So the difference is that Trump will drop a MOAB and kill hundreds…

And Biden will send 300,000 massive bombs to a genocidal warlord to kill tens of thousands?

I’m not trying to defend Trump, but I’m confused by your logic.

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If that’s what you think, it’s readily apparent that you don’t actually care about Palestinians, you just want to use them to score political points.

If you actually want to help then and prevent as many of their deaths as possible, your choice is clear. If you had the option to pull two levers, where one would keep the status quo and one would save just one Palestinian life, which would you pull?

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I oppose the status quo, as anyone with a conscience should

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If your only options were the status quo or things getting worse, you’d pick things getting worse?

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