The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.

But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.

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Lol and people want to talk about Mars missions.

We are so fucked.

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Only possible if you do an all female mission imo.

All male mission -> they kill each other

Mixed mission -> they kill the women and probably themselves after

Edit: Lmao lots of insecure men around here.

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Spoken like a true redditor. Leave that mindless stupid `manhating bullshit behind there.

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You must come from a different Reddit, I remember it being the opposite of that

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Never heard of this, do you have a source?

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Weirdest dysphoria ever

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Spoken like someone that’s never seen a woman’s restroom.

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Buckingham was hired by PAE. Amentum didn’t respond to questions from the AP. Leidos Senior Vice President Melissa Lee Dueñas said it conducts background checks on all its employees.

“Our stance on sexual harassment or assault couldn’t be more clear: we have zero tolerance for such behavior,” Dueñas said in an email. “Each case is thoroughly investigated.”

Translates to 1) We thoroughly investigate and hire sexual predators and 2) We say this b.s. to protect our jobs, actually we have zero tolerance for those who complain about sexual harassment.

The report made it clear that those in charge enable sexual predators.

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Makes you wonder what challenges women will face in future space exploration missions. Long periods of isolation with groups of coworkers with very little personal space. Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock (It’'ll probably happen who am I kidding)

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Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock

a m o g u s

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there’s no doubt that sexual predation would be a big issue and that women would be the first victims of any violence, but it’s just part of the greater concern over authority in such a small society… who is in charge, how are rules enforced and misbehavior punished… i’m not optimistic that a Mars outpost would be able to survive its own judicial system, for example… or any of the prepper compounds… they’re sort of all guaranteed to descend into really barbaric circumstances socially…

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or any of the prepper compounds

You wouldn’t want to be stuck for a long time in a society made up exclusively of people with severe anxiety and personal issues who reject society? I can’t imagine why.

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i’m pretty sure they’re all guaranteed nightmare scenarios… i think people build them just for the drama… so they’re all drama queens on top of it…

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Not any violence. Men are the vast majority of murder and assault victims in the West, I don’t have data for undeveloped countries. Makes sense when you realize we all had “you never hit a woman” beaten into us. Even criminals would rather harm a man than a woman.

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What gender is committing all those assaults though

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Future missions should be all-women teams. Problem solved.

Women eat less, use less oxygen, and weigh less than men. There’s actually no logical reason to send male astronauts anywhere.

Edit: lol @ the downvotes with zero responses

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Nah that’s misandrist bullshit. We’ve done plenty of all-male space missions and they had no issues.

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There are reasons to do that, women and men react differently to long-term microgravity.

I found this study about the differences (but it’s from 2014, please tell me if you find a more recent one) The Impact of Sex and Gender on Adaptation to Space: Executive Summary.

TL;DR female astronauts have, according to the study:

  • a higher risk of cancer (a 45-year-old man has a 344-day limit in space versus a 187-day limit for a 45-year-old woman)
  • more orthostatic intolerance
  • more UTIs (which makes sense as women on earth are also more likely to have UTIs)
  • less vision impairment compared to male astronauts (no clinically significant cases of VIIP syndrome)
  • less hearing problems (men show a more rapid decline in the left ear and in general as well, but this is the case on Earth too)


Keep in mind that this data is not the best because only around 20% of people that had been on the ISS at the time of the study were women and because male astronauts are more likely to come from a military background.

I personally think this means we should send an equal amount of both sexes (maybe more women as it would help get more data on the differences). Sending all-men or all-women missions sadly won’t fully solve the problem as sexual assault isn’t always between men and women, that said, it is less common so it’s not a bad idea.

Anyways, more investigation is required. If you find a newer/better study please tell me (or if something I wrote is inaccurate), I don’t want to spread misinformation

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Sure, weight is definitely a more important factor than idk, reaction ability in danger situations or physical resistance to unfriendly environments.

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Yes, it is. On a long mission, even a few kg can have big differences in fuel consumption. Also the mean difference of reaction times between men and women is around 20-30ms, which is miniscule. Idk about the differences in resistance to space, but I highly doubt that men are significantly more resistant than women.

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But are you including or excluding trans on that??

Mwahahahaah

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Oh my God you’re so clever!

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Bold move Cotton

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I have a feeling people picked for those types of missions will be vetted harder than “Hey, want to see some snow”

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Just FYI that username may get you some hostility. It’s far too close to Ace of Bass which is a band from the 90s that were neo-nazis. The Base of Aces was a Nazi submarine base in WW2. I’m not assuming anything here, the lead singer and guitarist both confirmed separately that was what their band name was referring to, just before they lost all their fans.

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Used this username for years; it’s a pun on the famous suit of playing cards the Ace of Spades. While I appreciate the warning, please go touch grass.

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Sorry I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but grass is another word for weed, and historically antimarijuana propaganda was used to oppress blacks.

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It’s much more likely to be a play on the much better known “Ace of Spades”?

I’m not completely ignorant on Nazi dog whistles, but this is not one I know.

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Yeah, that’s stretching it a little (probably based off the Cracked article from a while back). Ace of Base was named after Ace of Spades (a song by Motorhead) as a reference/homage, anything beyond that is purely speculation as the band have categorically denied it.

And yes, Ulf was indeed in a band that wrote some pretty heinous stuff but he has both repeatedly apologised for that, made clear he no longer believes in any of this, and made explicitly clear that Ace of Base never shared these ideas.

Sources for those wanting to read up on it: Original article in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/rm35nr/ace-of-bases-secret-nazi-past Speculation laden clickbait Cracked article that spawned a bunch of unfounded and unconfirmed theories about the origins of the band’s name, meaning/readings of their lyrics, etc: https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america Follow-up in Huffington post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ace-of-base-nazi-past-lyrics_n_3148797 and https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/26/ace-of-bases-ulf-ekberg-addresses-neo-nazi-allegations-_n_3161454.html

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I had a female friend/coworker that had previously served in the Navy, on a carrier as a communications specialist. She told stories of endless harassment. She said ultimately some of the women crafted partnerships with other female sailors and convinced everyone they were lesbians in order to just survive the job. It meant they had to spend lots of time together and play the part. She also said they had to work the jealousy angle because nobody wanted to be attacked by an angry lesbian girlfriend.

The male sailors assumed a lot of the women were lesbians because of the masculine nature of the work, or, as she put it, because they couldn’t believe the women weren’t attracted to them. It turned out if you gave them a plausible explanation you could fake your way through it. Without a plausible explanation, they could become resentful and dangerous. I asked if claiming to be married and/or have kids would work, she said it wasn’t as effective and you ultimately needed female allies anyway. She also said that actual lesbians would pretend to “date” hetero women in order to protect them. She kind of described it as leveraging the power of rumors.

I told her it sounded a lot like what happens in prison. She said in some ways, it was a prison.

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This. This is why humanity cannot have nice things.

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Because humanity is not a nice thing?

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Eh, humanity has a lot going for it.

Just not all of it.

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Well, it seems like every army is a prison

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One of them carried a hammer held by her bra. Wild. The person in charge of this place should be facing criminal charges.

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That’s just stupid, they have ice climbing picks that would hang far more comfortably from a belt. And be easier to reach when needed.

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