Your intolerance of the bovine secretions have severely reduced my desire to mate with you
Cheese was the one thing that kept me from going fully vegan for some time. Don’t care about meat, don’t care about milk, but cheese, cheese is special.
Similar boat here. I’ve been vegetarian for 18+ years now, and my meals have been vegan most days lately, but I don’t know if I’ll ever fully cut out cheese.
Vegan cheeses have improved a lot. I’ve been vegan for almost 25 years, and the last few years have been the best for cheese alternatives. I don’t know if you’re in the US or if these are international brands, but Miyokos and Parmela Creamery both make some good stuff.
I feel like it varies quite wildly. Hard cheese seems to be pretty difficult to emulate well, while softer cheeses seem to be more doable (though there are some horrible ones). We have a local store that makes their own vegan replacements for stuff, and they have some soft cheeses that use the same mold as the originals, and they’re pretty good.
If you haven’t had cheese in 25 years, I can see how you’d think the snotty vegan approximations are acceptable.
-A vegetarian who is also addicted to cheese
I’m still waiting the rest of the world to find out that there are so many types of pizza with no cheese
Yes. Cheese can be overpowering for more subtle toppings, it’s also fairly high in salt. You don’t really notice the salt, unless you mix it with other topping that are also salty.
BBQ sauce with jalapeno and nutritional yeast is pretty good. The nutritional yeast give that cheese-like funk without the salt combining with the jalapeno, or counteracting the sweet of the bbq sauce.
Also, the cheese also ruins some flavours like kimchi, bruschetta, or chimichurri.
That’s just bread. Pizza is bread topped with sauce and cheese, end of discussion.
Not according to the Italians. You’d be astonished at how unimportant they consider cheese as a topping. It’s the bread and the sauce that matter. Everything else is a garnish.
I share the opinion that pizza is bread with sauce and cheese.
However, I am open to change my mind because there is always room for more pizza in my life. What’s everyone’s favorite non-cheese pizzas?
If your pizza is same as bread then you’re eating terrible pizza, I’m sorry
In Italy cheese is absolutely not required, even if Margherita is the most common base so most pizzas have cheese. Even so, there are many types of pizza with no cheese, and many others with no tomato.
It’s also very common to see pizza farcita, which you can imagine as a pizza sandwich. For example a very common one is “pizza e mortazza” in Rome, which is a pure puzza with no topping but filled with mortadella (a type of ham). But various kinds of fillings are possible
Another example would be focaccia, most of them don’t have any cheese at all.
There is even sweet pizza with no cheese, for example pizza with Nutella
Yes, please. Expose yourselves. It is a fate most gruesome that awaits the cheese deniers
What is this, Theseus’ pizza? How many of the traditional ingredients can you replace and still consider it a pizza?
What defines something as pizza is the base, not the toppings. Of course there are some common and more classic toppings, but those include also no cheese pizzas
The base is bread. The pizza is defined as the base + cheese + tomato sauce + various toppings.
a dish of Italian origin, consisting of a flat round base of dough baked with a topping of tomatoes and cheese, typically with added meat, fish, or vegetables.
Source: the dictionary.
marinara is one of the best pizza I’ve tried. can’t come up with other examples. but not everyone thinks cheese is somehow necessary
Yes. Well not everyone can be right about everything. Cheese is one of exactly 3 critical ingredients for what we call Pizza.
I need that image of the crow.
https://imgur.com/gallery/crow-of-judgement-7iWB3HT - Cleaned up from sauce but might need more JPEG.
http://owlmeat.blogspot.com/2008/12/grackle-day-poem.html - Sauce
Cheese apologism is cowardice