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good for poland. I have a nickname for “Energy drinks”: Heart attacks in a can. If you want/need caffeine get a coffee or a pop like a normal person.

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What is it that makes coffee better for you than an energy drink? I know they usually have an obscene amount of sugar and caffeine, but you can get that in coffee too. I make a drink fairly often with 4 shots of espresso, around 250mg of caffeine. It doesn’t have that much sugar but I could easily add as much as I wanted. A normal cup of coffee would of course be much better than an energy drink, but if energy drinks should have restrictions then why shouldn’t coffee too?

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That’s what I don’t understand too. They can just buy a doubletripple espresso and add a lot of sugar to ease the taste. Maybe a bit of cinnamon hint too. What’s the real difference here?

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The difference is popular conception. Laws aren’t set based on science. They’re set based on what enough people believe. People believe energy drinks are worse and thus they get regulated whether or not it’s true.

Advertising, audience, and stereotypes play a part in this too. Coffee is stereotypically consumed by older people, whereas energy drinks are often younger people (who older people find annoying). Coffee also has a much greater social acceptance that would make it controversial to regulate. End result is that it’s popular to limit energy drinks but unpopular to point out that coffee has far more caffeine.

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It’s the convenience I think. You can carry an energy drink in your backpack all day and consume it whenever. A coffee is more motivated so you order it when you want to drink it. But of course there are exceptions. It seems the goal of this is just to cut down the caffeine by making large doses less convenient, not to remove caffeine completely.

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What is it that makes coffee better for you than an energy drink?

He drinks coffee instead of energy drinks, therefore coffee is better.

Same thing with drugs. All the drugs I do are okay, all the drugs everyone else does isn’t.

It’s a childish mentality that we’ve yet to get over as a species, even in adulthood.

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did you just make an assumption about what I consume? Damn, that makes you look pretty dumb. I don’t drink coffee, btw. I love the smell, never had it or tasted it. The only way caffeine gets into my body is through pop (Dr Pepper, preferably) and I guess chocolate since chocolate has caffeine. But definitely not the absurd levels of caffeine that energy drinks have

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Everything makes coffee better. Energy drink is ultra processed crap, coffee is natural and has been used for centuries.

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coffee is natural and has been used for centuries.

So is cocaine and opium. Are you joking? I honestly can’t tell.

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Funny nickname, but have you got any evidence for your claims?

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Good. When I was young, an energy drink almost gave me a heart attack because my heart was beating too fast. In my opinion, these drinks are dangerous.

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How fast was it?

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I was measured at 180bpm after a night of Red Bull and Vodka.

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Cue the black market for buying energy drinks for minors.

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Imagine all the new super strong energy drinks created by a black market demand. This is awesome!

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It’s unlikely to cause any kind of large black market. In the UK, energy drinks have been restricted to 16+ for a few years now. People don’t mind off brand vapes or cigarettes (for some reason), but people absolutely care about the brand of energy drink they are buying. Kids especially, I imagine most only buy them to look cool, and if no one knows you are drinking a “cool” energy drink then why bother?

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Underage kids will still drink them, they will just pay inflated prices for them from 3rd parties.

People that are old enough to buy them legally will buy up packs of them and then sell them to kids who cannot legally buy them.

Same thing happens here in the US with alcohol and cigs.

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No energy drink is as cool as the one with the skulls on the can that glows in the dark and is laced with Chinese research chemicals you can only get one the dark web or from your older brothers friend that believes there’s a Nazi base on the moon.

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Yeah… no. Energy drinks are already horrendously overpriced.

Only the wealthiest children will be able to buy them at black market prices.

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¿Que?

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Fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa

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Whoops lol, fixed.

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Utter bullshit. The world does need more ways to restrict, exclude, and infantilize young people. This should be subverted by every possible means.

I imagine this cuts off right at the voting age? So it only affects people who never had a say in who passed it and can’t effectively hold them to account for it?

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Yeah well, I don’t like energy drinks and neither should anyone else.

Same goes for vaping.

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Well my problem with vapes aren’t the vapes itself but the single use one’s. They even have a recharable battery just for it to be used once. It’s extremely wasteful

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Pretty sure California banned all vapes, though.

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Gosh, and I hate sunlight, and I think we should ban it. No one should like sunlight! /s

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Nanny state shit.

It’s like you want to push people away from the center towards extremism .

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If not being able to buy energy drinks as a kid pushes you to extremism, you were already destined for that to begin with.

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It’s a spectrum. They might not blow up buildings but might start hanging out in those forums. Shit like this is very unpopular with folks in the center of either side.

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I totally agree.

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Nice hearing about something Poland is doing right!

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Poland does many things right

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…as long as it doesn’t offend the church.

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I’m sure it does. The thing is I mostly hear about the things Poland does wrong. That’s what trends to break into international news. That’s why I worded my comment the way I did.

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Is that unusual for Poland? I have no idea, myself.

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Poland is doing a lot of things wrong on the judicial side.

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By “judicial side” you mean “Poland is going Hungary/Israel judicial style”?

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