282 points

No they don’t. What a rubbish clickbait article.

All they say is that there’s a (niche) trend of a few people using feature phones with expected combined sales of $2.8 million. Versus the $200 billions of iPhones alone.

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66 points

They weren’t entirely wrong. The numbers don’t lie. They just don’t say what the author claims it does.

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40 points

It’s directly in the headline: Gen Z is ditching the iPhone. That’s incorrect in two ways: A) it’s at best one in fifty people buying aforementioned feature phones and B) they don’t even know if all buyers replace their existing phone or buy it as an additional handset.

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10 points

I have both a smartphone and a flip phone.

I kept both because the flip phone lets me make phone calls from my basement and many other places that the smartphone cannot.

I have never met anyone else with this setup.

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3 points

I had a biz partner who is a centimillionaire. He has an iPhone for data, and a flip-phone for calls.

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4 points

That’s still more than I expected. But it doesn’t look like the dramatic turn of tides.

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14 points

I think it’s a fad. The moment you need a certain app or feature these feature (-less) phones become frustrating quickly.

Take the idea of taking a break from your smartphone on a vacation. You end up without a camera, without a map, without public transport apps, contact-free payment, etc.

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I think you’d be surprised how easy it is to live without any of those things, even in the modern world. Also, feature phones have cameras and some basic apps. They’re not actually 80s cordless phones.

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3 points

Thanks. Exactly what I thought.

“tHe NuMbErS doN’t LiE”

“Numbers” are some paltry bs that are “expected to grow in 2023” like BTC was “expected to hit a $100k in 2020”.

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1 point

Welcome to news in Lemmy

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-3 points

I mean, the title is clickbaity, but what title isn’t at this point? The actual point of the article is just that there is a small but growing niche of younger people switching to feature phones. I think that’s neat, and I’m starting to consider a feature phone for my next phone myself.

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Just because a lot of stuff is shitty doesn’t mean we should just a accept when things are shitty.

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Yes, and pointing out that the title is clickbait is fine, but the entire post seems to be a disagreement with an article that agrees with the commenter. That seems to me to be a very unhealthy way of approaching the problem of clickbait titles.

Edit: I realized you’re not the original person I replied to.

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50 points

Doubt.

Haven’t seen a flip phone in use in ages and I work among the public. Even the barely functional elderly on smartphones.

Who paid for this article? What’s their angle?

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Just the other day I saw an article with the exact opposite headline about how Gen z is sticking with the iPhone. Now I don’t know which one is full of shit; but it’s obviously one of them.

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17 points

It was about how Gen Z are rejecting “droids” in favor of iPhones

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6 points

Playing_both_sides.jpg

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Isn’t the angle just to sound interesting/controversial/unbelievable so people click and see your ads? You know, clickbait?

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2 points

This is one job I’m glad AI is taking over.

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For the past 10 years I never bought a phone for more than 300 euros.

I usually get a new phone every 3 years to have the latest tech and donate or recycle the old one.

For the last year I had an iPhone 13 pro (usually goes around 1100 euro) as a work phone and my personal Redmi Note 11 Pro I bought for 270 euros and not once I told myself: Man, this iphone is at least 3 times better than my Xiaomi. It’s clearly a premium product but a middle category budget phone can match most features and even more. I still have a headphone jack, bigger 120 Hz screen, IR blaster and an amazing fingerprint sensor.

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iphone is clever marketing scheme to become a status symbol for a generation that no longer has a car as one.

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2 points

And that’s why you shouldn’t buy those things new. If you really really want one, get a used one. Sure, it’s a few years old, but it’s fine as long as it’s still updated. Besides, you’re paying only a fraction of what it was when it was released.

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you are talking about a car, right? because it doesn’t work well for iphone with their planned obsolescence… https://www.ifixit.com/News/11208/batterygate-timeline

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4 points

Ya, this pretty much me. I had a bad experience with the budget pixel. Wouldn’t recommend them… But otherwise haven’t really missed out on having a top end flagship phone at all.

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4 points

Yup, I’m on the Redmi train as well, got a Redmi Note 10, will probably upgrade next month or this month depending on how much money I have left after all expenses. Had it for 2 years or something and it has a crack throughout a good length of the screen otherwise I’d keep it even longer. Cost me 200 € new.

May just get the same phone you got or a newer one/alternative if I find one until then. -> Probably the Note 12 (Pro, if the features are worth it), looking at GSMArena right now. Rooting it again will be annoying though

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Had it for 2 years or something and it has a crack throughout a good length of the screen otherwise I’d keep it even longer.

buying cheap screen covers from dealextreme, 20 pieces at a dollar per piece, is what kept my mi max 3 running for 5 years and counting. it still has enough performance for anything i do on it and i don’t plan throwing it away anytime soon.

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Just ordered the 12 Pro since I got my paycheck yesterday, I’ll definitely conserve it as much as possible and get some good screen protection and take my Note 10 with me if I’m gonna go out drinking or something.

That’s what I’m saying today, watch me utterly destroy it within a week.

Edit: got the 8 gig version as well so it will definitely last way longer (+ custom roms), maybe I’ll still use it in 5 years like you do ¯\(ツ)

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2 points

Cheap smartphones are an incredible value. My wife bought a 180 EUR Realme 7 about 3 years ago, and it’s still working great, it’s plenty fast for everyday things (she’s not a gamer), has 8 GB RAM …

One thing you really need to compromise on are the cameras. But the problem is that I’m a sucker for cameras, so I keep buying expensive flagships …

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maybe you would be better buying an actual camera. there are some really good compact cameras that aren’t necessarily heavy

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I have a Fuji X-E3 with some nice lightweight lenses like XF35mm f/2, but even such combo is still far from pocketable. It’s also not great for immediate processing and sharing.

There are some 1 inch sensor compact cameras (Sony RX100), but they are pretty expensive and the IQ difference gets smaller compared to highend smartphones. In the end, my smartphone is the only device I consistently carry everywhere …

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1 point

I’ve purchased several budget/midrange phones as my daily driver, and the long term performance simply wasn’t worth it based on the things that I do with my phone.

Now, this is based on cheaper phones with specs from several years so this doesn’t hold true anymore.

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31 points

I though genZ only bought iPhone because of the green bubble or something?

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3 points

That was never true to begin with

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-10 points

And i thought 90% of them have brain damage in general…

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4 points

Aren’t they all broke as well?

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29 points

I don’t trust these numbers, I really don’t trust any article that talks about my generation.

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