A purported leak of 2,500 pages of internal documentation from Google sheds light on how Search, the most powerful arbiter of the internet, operates.

The leaked documents touch on topics like what kind of data Google collects and uses, which sites Google elevates for sensitive topics like elections, how Google handles small websites, and more. Some information in the documents appears to be in conflict with public statements by Google representatives, according to Fishkin and King.

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It’s honestly quite strange that this sort of black box system is allowed to exist. How are governments around the world OK with a vast majority of the internet being filtered through a private company’s lens without any sort of insight into how it works? That sounds skeevy as shit.

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Better than those governments having control. Ideal scenario is everything is decentralized

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I agree decentralized is better, but isn’t that an argument in favor of a government having more control than a corporation?

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No? What I said was “better than governments have control” how is that pro government?

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Why is that better? It may not be ideal but governments have at least some accountability.

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Did you notice the US President from 16 to 20?

Even after felony convictions, there is no accountability or consequences.

Have you seen the US Supreme Court?

Don’t tell me a government has any accountability when minds are twisted by misinformation engines like Fox & Friends.

Not that a company is any better, yet alone google.

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Because that paves a very easy path to corruption . No freaking way do i wanna live in a country where the government has absolute control over all information spread.

Don’t get me wrong, fuck Google, but government control of the Internet just sounds worse

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No it’s not better.

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Do you have any sort of argument for that or is it just thoughts different, different thoughts bad?

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I tried to cry for them but after Googling instructions about how to I poured Elmer’s Wood Glue on both eyes. I cannot call the result tears. Not sure what to call it, but certainly not tears.

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Honestly I hope this bites them hard. They’ve done way way worse to small businesses and competition for decades now.

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39 points

Who wants to take bets that Search itself ends up in The Graveyard soon, leaving nothing but the new AI abomination in place?

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I could see them not letting you directly search anymore, only through the LLM bot. Because that’s been how things have been going anyway, Google seems to fully ignore literal searches with quote marks now, presumably because it doesn’t fit their vision of using natural (imprecise) language. So why not make the LLM write the search query for you in a completely opaque way?

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You can search, it will just cost you $15/mo for the Google battlepass.

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More likely they will just slowly rebrand search to more AI type things. Then slowly retire the non-AI parts in the background.

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Yeah, I know a lot of the smaller, independent search engines are lacking, but the people using the “udm=14” trick to remove Google’s AI results now, as if that won’t be removed as soon as Google needs to show investors the AI is more profitable.

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the url needs a param to tell the server what kind of query is being requested. as long as they have the ‘web’ tab and option, it will be there. but i’m guessing they will come up with a way to encode that instruction in the tracking bits or something so you can’t just manually tack something on to the end of your query url and bypass their precious a.i. bot

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Here’s the sooper-secret search result algorithm for whatever you type into Google:

YouTube results, followed by Reddit results, followed by “Sponsored” results, followed by AI-written Bot results, then a couple pages of Amazon results and finally, on page 10 or so, a ten-year-old result that’s probably no longer relevant.

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That’s generally what I’ve found to be the case, shocking that it’s considered so secret lol

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