Bill Pruitt, a former producer for The Apprentice whose NDA just expired after 20 years, writes in Slate that Donald Trump used the n-word during the production of the show — and there are tapes of him doing it.
In a sane world, a draft dodger saying he ‘liked soldiers who didn’t get captured’ would have been enough.
The people who vote for him know what he is, they just don’t care.
I think in a sane world, after the “grab 'em by the pussy” tape came out we’d have never heard from him again.
I’ve posted this story many times.
After the ‘pussy grabber’ tape came out, a conservative woman went on the TV show The View to defend Donald.
One of the other panelists kept repeating the word ‘pussy’ over and over. The Trump defender asked her to stop using that offensive word.
A reminder that there was a candidate who got too excited and yelled in a weird way then got erased because of it. Now we have Robert “brainworm” Kennedy still on people’s radar sounding like he’s gargled gravel everyday since he was 12.
Not to mention someone misspelled potato once, and his political career got torched from it.
In a sane world, yes.
In the real world, the people who support him are the ones who identify with him, and the ones who identify with him think that sexual assault is the pinnacle of masculinity.
Upvoted before I clicked it because I knew exactly what you were talking about. Only clicked to verify.
Why is everyone talking about a hypothetical sane world? It’s not. Maybe it never was. It’s a mad mad mad mad world.
(No conscious reference to the movie, it’s just a title that seems apt.)
I didn’t get the reference. All I could think of was mad mad mad mad mad Madam Mim from Sword in the Stone.
It’s been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.
Many think it’s only the stupid and uneducated that are taken in by these scams. At times it’s the tribal nature that we can get caught up in.
Often the educated are worse off as they know better and the grave injury to their egos won’t allow them to announce to others they have fallen victim as it’s pretty embarrassing. They take their lumps and move on with their lives if they do recognize they have fallen into these traps.
It’s going to be many years before we get to the other side and then I wonder if it will be like what the Spanish referred to as the Miracle that occurred when Franco died.
After decades in power, the citizens that fought for Franco and supported him ceased to exist. When asked everyone fought against Franco in the civil war and they secretly fought against him at every level of society, government, and the military. It was miracle how he came to power and won a war with no support from anyone at any level within Spain.
If we ever get past the identity association of team Orange it will be interesting who is found to still be supporting this current day madness especially among the religious groups that support a man that displays so many of the things many of the regular members would be chastised for…
In the 1960 election Kennedy beat Richard Nixon with something like 52% of the vote.
In 1980, they polled a bunch of people who had voted in that election and somehow 99% of them had voted for Kennedy.
It’s been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.
People in the UFO scene do the same with their grifters.
I recall reading the Sagan’s Demon Haunted World and the section dedicated to this “phenomenon”. The self convincing and conviction to these events was pretty amazing to read about from a curiosity prospective. The letters he would receive were pretty far out there.
My matter of fact father swears late one night while grading logging roads in a remote area in the 70s, he saw a big bright light in the sky that he couldn’t explain and it moved in ways he didn’t expect.
Being out in the wilderness I’m sure it wasn’t a comfortable situation for him. I still wonder what he saw but thankfully there was no accompanying abduction story to go with it in his case. These types of stories and shows did get his a attention forever after as a result.
“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Attributed (but debated) to Samuel Clemens.
A Trump voter quote that always live rent free in my head is “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”.
It tells you everything they need to know about them. They have a shit life, and they want to make damn sure everyone else has a shit life too.
Before Trump I could pretend I lived in a world where the great majority of people were reasonably intelligent and kind.
It’s still true. It’s not that the majority of these people are actually thinking, “How can I make the world worse and make the greatest number of people’s lives bad?” Rather, they’re under the impression that others (probably you) are saying that, and worse, that Trump is somehow their best defense against it.
Only because they have a misguided sense of revenge and want to blame the libs for their truncated life expectations when in fact they’ve been supporting and voting for the very politicians most likely to keep pushing their heads under water.
They want to hurt their opponents. They don’t care what the price is.
If this tape got leaked, it would literally help his candidacy. The hatred, cruelty, misogyny - it’s a feature, not a bug. There was already a tape of this guy bragging about sexually assaulting women, and it didn’t make a lick of difference. I can see his rabid followers salivating at the idea of hearing him say the N word on tape.
It might hamper his apparent surging popularity among black voters
A lot of people only care about things when they’re impacted
Overall, older voters have tended to be more Republican than younger voters in recent decades, but this is not true for Black voters. While 7% of Black voters 50 and older currently identify as or lean Republican, 17% of Black voters under 50 are aligned with the Republican Party. This is not new, as younger Black voters have tended to be more Republican than older Black voters over the last 25 years.
No. It is not accurate to say his popularity with black voters is “surging”.
I’ve seen some decent conversations over on Mastodon about how the democrats taking the black vote for granted is causing real damage. Not criticise or focus on you personally at all, but your response kinda backs up the point.
In a hard two party system, what else was going to happen?
Wouldn’t that be straight hate speech?
Is that not a crime, or am I misinformed?
He’s not getting punished for incitement for his speech on Jan 6, why would he get punished for this?
But, yes, if it led to violence it would be considered inciting violence which is technically a crime.
Hate speech in the United States
In a Supreme Court case on the issue, Matal v. Tam (2017), the justices unanimously reaffirmed that there is effectively no “hate speech” exception to the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment and that the U.S. government may not discriminate against speech on the basis of the speaker’s viewpoint.
It’s not a crime on its own in the US, but if it incites imminent lawless action that can be a crime.
Depends on what you mean. Is it hate speech from a court of public opinion standpoint? Probably. Is it from a legal one? The US doesn’t have a hate speech law on the books just “Obscenity law” which allows things to be censored.
Canadian law has hate speech but it might not fit that either as to legally be chargable as hate speech it needs to fit the criteria. In this instance it could be argued use of an N slur is Denying, minimizing or celebrating past persecution or tragedies that happened to group members… but it would ALSO need be performative in a public space, intended and performed for a large group. If it’s basically in the scope of him having a private conversation with individuals it isn’t a chargeable offence to public order. If he was shouting it in the street sure but consequences wise it’s analogous to someone shouting “The Duck army is coming!” over and over again outside your house 3am. It’s a public nuisance ordinance. If you call the cops will come over and stop it only if someone complains and at worst they will escort you away and issue a fine but nobody is going to do hard time for heralding the Duck army’s arrival or hate speech.
So like is it hate speech? Maybe. Is he a racist dick who deserves condemnation for being a hateful racist dick? Yes.
The N word on its own is simply vulgarity. I think hate speech relies on the content of the message.
For instance.
What’s up my n****? - Not hate speech.
Spoiler contains an example of hate speech. It does not represent an actual view that I hold, and it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever written, and should not be read by anyone.
spoiler
I chickened out an deleted it. No one needs to read that shit. Just imagine someone expressing a racist sentiment without using the N-word here.
-Definitetly hate speech without using the N word.
Lordy, I hope there are tapes!
Billionaires stand to gain from Trump getting elected again. Don’t count on those tapes coming to light.
Bezos has been targeted by Trump before and could afford to pull off the biggest troll move right before the election
So bonus points for his followers?
What difference does this make now? Racism isn’t a republican secret, neither is supporting white supremacy. The few bipoc supporters will minimize it.
