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…SpaceOS, which is a built on top of Google’s ChromiumOS…

I’m out.

Linux is… right there. It’s right there.

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Chromium OS is based on Linux.

But yeah, if I can’t apt-get the packages I need, fuck it

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fsck it*

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You can do that with chrome os. Chrome os has a really good Linux subsystem built in nowadays.

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And what about Chromium OS?

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its not based on linux it uses the linux kernel, but hasnt got the gnu userland things a “standard” linux distro has

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So it’s Linux, but not GNU/Linux.

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I’ve been using Sunshine for Linux with Moonlight on my AVP and that works great. The native Moonlight port for AVP is still very much a buggy, crashy WIP, but the iPad version is a decent enough standby.

Honestly, using virtual Mac Display on AVP is so, so, so good, that I want that functionality everywhere… from any and all of my devices. Sunshine + Moonlight is currently the most promising path forward, IMO.

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Apps on Linux don’t need to be open source, you know?

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ChromiumOS is Linux.

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“it runs a custom operating system called SpaceOS, which is a built on top of Google’s ChromiumOS (the open source version of the software that’s runs on Chromebooks)”

So $2,000 for hardware that’s a brick in 5 years… nice!

https://promevo.com/blog/chrome-os-expiration#:~:text=Does ChromeOS expire%3F,support will not be provided.

"And that software runs on hardware that’s… basically what you’d expect from a decent smartphone. The Spacetop G1 features a Qualcomm Snapdragon QCS8550 processor, 16GB of LPDDR5 memory, and 128GB of UFS 3.1 storage.

With Adreno 740 graphics and a Hexagon NPU, Sightful says the system supports up to 48 TOPS of total AI performance… which would be more impressive if Qualcomm hadn’t just launched its Snapdragon X Plus and Elite chips which deliver 45 TOPS using just the NPU, while also offering CPU and graphics performance that are said to be competitive with Intel, AMD, and Apple processors."

Hmmm… not that you’d still WANT to be running that hardware in 2 years, much less 5…

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The five year policy is for ChromeOS, not ChromiumOS. ChromiumOS-based devices may have more or less support.

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Yeah, the developer of the device might drop it in 2 years

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But why not just use Linux and get decades of updates?

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ChromeOS and ChromiumOS are Linux.

The problem with ChromeOS (and Android) devices is that hardware support is usually only available in a fork of Linux which gets as little maintenance as possible for the five years. You end up with the choice of running and old kernel that supports the hardware but not some new software, a new kernel that supports new software but the hardware doesn’t work right, or taking over maintenance of the fork yourself. The same problem occurs with uncommon hardware on non-ChromeOS devices.

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XREAL Air 2 Pro glasses to give you a virtual “100 inch” display.

Wow!

It’s an ARM-based PC

Good!

it runs a custom operating system called SpaceOS, which is a built on top of Google’s ChromiumOS

Unless the bootloader is unlocked and it’s possible to write an open driver for the glasses, Bye.

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There are people reverse engineering the glasses right now (I have a pair):

https://github.com/wheaney/XRLinuxDriver

One of my longshot projects is to convert my framework laptop main board to exactly this. I basically use the glasses a lot more than the screen at this point (it’s more convenient at night before bed)

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? No. Make it Linux. Android is not a desktop operating system.

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… so they actually managed production/made it feasible … aaand then decided on ChromiumOS (supposedly because the “monitor” is a bit different)?

Such glasses is what I need from (non-gaming) VR. But not like this :(

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You can buy the xreal glass separately for $449: https://us.shop.xreal.com/products/xreal-air-2-pro

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There are actually like 10 exact same glasses from different manufacturers/brands, from 250-ish moneys upwards (you might need various addition interfaces for your devices, like PC, HDMI, etc - sold separately and unreasonably expensive for what they are).

They all use the same design, Sony OLEDs, speakers, batteries, accessories, etc, they only differ in front design.

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I wish we had better open source options. I don’t want to download Chrome to update firmware on stuff.

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Make it cost less that $2K and enable the use of a standard OS and I’d give it a go. Would also be great if the glasses could somehow not be wired, but trying to power them for any length of time would be a pain.

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“Instead it has two USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C ports that you can use to connect peripherals including AR glasses that come with the device”

OOOR… wacky idea… release the glasses for use on any device with the proper ports…

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Not the same company but Andrew Ethan Zeng on Youtube tested the XREAL Air AR Glasses. He was able to connect the glasses directly to his phone and his Macbook. Note, they did sponsor the video and reviews aren’t exactly great. His video is really informative though.

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There is xreal, nreal, rokid… Plenty of manufacturers to pick with, and you can spare money for a regular laptop.

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Yeah I’d absolutely consider replacing or augmenting my display with something like these glasses, but asking people to pay more, downgrade specs, replace their whole system, all while picking up an unfamiliar OS… I’ll wait for the gen 2. Or 4.

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Yeah. People already sell laptops; this is basically a super expensive laptop with a fancy screen and a janky custom OS. But having this as an app for your phone, that let you pop other apps up into the heads-up virtual display or have “full screen” access to certain functionality while still supporting all your regular stuff, would be pretty different. So it can make your phone “laptop like” any time you wanted to pop the glasses on, or pop little notifications into the corner of your vision, maybe with a couple of little buttons on the glasses for “expand notification” “clear notification” “clear all” “up” “down” “minimize” “maximize”, something like that, would be super neat. And then any time you want to break out the keyboard you can use it like a computer.

(I know the permissions and app compatibility and battery life etc would make that not necessarily trivial to do)

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As stupid as the apple glasses are, the gesture function sure seems like it would work well with something like this.

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That too, I haven’t delved into the whole AR space a lot but would plenty well like the option to connect something lightweight and have a virtual giant screen.

The other question I’d have for something like that is the contrast levels. If it ends up as a ‘ghost’ overlay it could make doing things with a lot of text/terminals a big strain to look at.

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