ASUS rolled out an update to its firmware (3.0.0.6.102_34791) that now requires users to be over the age of 16 and to send a slew of metrics and data back to ASUS. If you do not agree or do not check the box to verify you are 16y or older, you cannot use the router. At this time, I’m not sure if ASUS has meant to disable the router for anyone under 16 or if it’s a bug.

You can opt out at any time but lose access to a slew of features:

Please note that users are required to agree to share their information before using DDNS, Remote Connection (ASUS Router APP, Lyra APP. AiCloud, AiDisk), AiProtection, Traffic analyzer, Apps analyzer, Adaptive QoS, Game Boost and Web history. At any time, users can search the contents of the terms at this page or stop sharing their information with other parties by choosing Withdraw.

Moreover, ASUS disables automatic firmware updates and worse, all security upgrades unless you opt into the data sharing. Security upgrades perform the following:

Security upgrade incorporates security measures that continuously update its security file and scans to protect against malware, malicious scripts, and emerging threats in order to secure the router and ensure system stability. Some upgrades addressing important security issues or meeting legal/regulatory requirements will still be downloaded and installed automatically, even if “Security Upgrade” is turned off.

Edit: I have personally contacted their CEO’s office, but if others would like to voice their disapproval as well, here is a link: https://www.asus.com/us/support/article/787/

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Top level comment to remind the Open WRT fanboys that this ASUS router uses a Broadcom chipset, which is not supported on OpenWRT. Been seeing it recommended by a lot of replies to comments when it won’t be helpful in this case, since Broadcom chips don’t have open drivers

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However, freshtomato is another router firmware, that isn’t as feature rich or well supported as opwnwrt, but is focused on supporting broadcom chipsets.

https://www.freshtomato.org/

https://wiki.freshtomato.org/doku.php/hardware_compatibility

I flashed it to my netgear router with a broadcom chipset, it works wonderfully!

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Yeah I’ve stayed out of those because it’s just felt like a knee jerk without actually even reading anything. “Someone said something critical about a router firmware, quick put OpenWRT on blast!” 😏

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Should I need a new motherboard, which vendor would you guys recommend that’s not crap (as a company)? Gigabyte? GamersNexus had a few very negative reports on MSI as well.

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Yeah gigabyte is solid. I was quite happy with the Aorus line up. I have never bought MSI because I’ve always felt them to be cheap and dodgy. So not surprised NG was having issues with them.

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The GIGABYTE B650E AORUS Master looks quite interesting with its 4 PCIe 5.0 x4 NVMe slots. I eventually settled for the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E though when I got my Ryzen 7000 CPU at the beginning of last year, but if I got to choose again it wouldn’t be an ASUS board.

The mainboard I have is mostly fine (great even, in terms of general stability), but ASUS fucked up their version of the firmware or power management of the Intel 2.5 GbE adapter so it can just completely die after a few hours under Linux, and sometimes get the connection speed wrong under Windows. A workaround under Linux is to disable PCIe power management entirely in the Linux kernel parameters (pcie_aspm.policy=performance pcie_port_pm=off), but that’s hardly ideal. I don’t see myself spending hundreds of dollars on a new mainboard just because of this issue though. ASUS fails to even acknowledge the issue.

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I hate gigabyte with a passion. The 980Ti Gaming G1 has explosion issues (literally) including mine and some other people. They didn’t step up. Then there’s the PSU debacle. There was an r/fuckgigabyte for a reason. I think just AsRock is left?

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IMO, ASRock.

Considering that they’re probably the only mobo manufacturer that officially supports using consumer AM4 CPUs on a server (see ASRock Rack), and always supported ECC ram on all AM4 motherboards - and that I haven’t had anything negative happen with any of their products so far (at work) - I personally would choose ASRock next.

Haven’t had the chance to try them for AM5 yet, sadly.

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I had an ASRock X570 Taichi once. It had a great feature set, but unfortunately every few cold boots the BIOS would completely forget all settings and reset everything to default. This may have been related to my memory’s XMP profile, but the same memory ran just fine with XMP and the exact same CPU on a much older ASUS X370 Crosshair VI Hero. So I eventually switched to the ASUS ROG Strix B550-E, which was/is a very good board I would say. So naturally, I went with the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E when I switched to AM5, and while the board is generally stable, the Intel NIC has issues the way ASUS configured it (see my reply to the other commenter).

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If anyone is looking for an alternative firmware, check out Fresh Tomato: https://freshtomato.org/

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The data sharing persists even with merlin. I get a prompt about it as soon as I tried to enable those advanced features. I still get updates though.

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That was the case before the update, but they didn’t bar security updates and firmware upgrades or not let you even into the router without consent. I had those disabled but the update makes opting in mandatory.

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Merlin

That thread isn’t about Merlin firmware?

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THE YEAR OF OPENWRT!

/s not /s

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