33 points

Proud to live in the absolute lowest car-owning city. And I’m honestly surprised that it’s almost half! So few people who I know own cars. But there are big outer areas that are basically suburbs and I assume the ownership is higher there.

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I’m sure there’s a huge variation by borough.

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This doesn’t seem to discriminate between people who choose not to own a car and people who can’t afford to own a car.

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Knowing the actual public transportation options here its pretty sad. They are expanding bus services but getting around the city requires either a bike or a car.

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How much trouble does winter weather cause for folks in Detroit who do not have cars? How close to downtown Detroit do you need to be to still have an acceptable amount of freedom of movement without needing a car?

From personal experience living in Denver (we get roughly the same snowfall as Detroit). I found driving in the snow much more annoying then walking/taking the bus.

I’m guessing Detroit’s lack of car ownership is partly due to income.

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Property has stayed relatively cheap around here. So people working service jobs can afford to live closer to work sometimes. But I think the answer is a combination of unemployment, inability to afford a car and people driving without license and registration which is used for this data explains it more than a functioning public transportation system.

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19 points

Where the hell do you think Detroit is

Also this is partially a map of “who can’t afford a car”

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Yea, depending on the city, it’s definitely about wealth. I think that was their intention by listing the median household income.

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Its North of Canada, those Journey assholes need to look at a map.

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The framing about wealth is so gross to me. I don’t want a car.

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The title could be cities with good vs bad city planning. All the green cities are designed to force people to use cars, because they made everything so spread out with little to no public transportation. The red cities are built properly with public transportation to help people get around.

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Or bad vs worse city planning. I was surprised to see so many upstate NY cities on the low car ownership list. They do have some public transport but can still be pretty tough without a car. Though they’ve all had some efforts to rein in some failed urban renewal projects like bulldozing unnecessary freeways, and some attempts at improving walking and biking experiences.

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I imagine that it has to do with the age of those cities. They were established before cars, so the older parts were designed to get around easier. At least that’s what I assume, because virtually all the cities with low car ownership are in New England.

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Have you been to Los Angeles? It’s not so much that it was poorly designed as it is that it just never stopped growing. Los Angeles county is 4753 square miles.

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Yeah, I went on a road trip a long time ago. I remember it was almost all highway with tons of cars without a good public transport system. They knew they were growing and could have held off the heavy traffic with commuter trains and a substantial public transport system.

Sure there’s a system already in place in LA, though I’m sure there’s room for improvement.

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