For my phone, I use Graphene OS. What would be the best desktop Linux option to match the level of security and privacy that GOS provides?

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Tails in proxmox in tails running on pure ramdrive system with no longterm storage, cpu, bios, mac serials overwritten with FFFFFFF, TPM chip desoldered or lasered off CPU, connected to TOR viato mullvad paid with crypto, through VPN running left behind sanitized device hidden in a library, through second sanitized vpn device connected to private insecure wifi in poor residential area with no cameras, after abolishing the state

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Truly a person of refined taste.

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Only two layers of sanitizers? Gosh might as well just put your social security number out there

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Read my instructions to the end, always abolish the state before you start. This makes social security numbers powerless, look, 663 342 934. Nothing happened.

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The’s a good one! 😊 It’s funny

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Reading this comment made me die.

On a related note, being dead is the most secure way to use a distro.

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Pretty much any distro that isn’t Ubuntu. Are you asking for privacy or security? Those are very different.

For security, I’d stick to more complete distros like Fedora instead of more diy distros like NixOS or Arch. They’re great to learn and tinker with, but distros like Fedora have security experts adding mitigations and security stuff in the distro by default, whereas most users of Arch or something would have to manually look up those things and keep up to date on the latest security. So basically, none of them lol.

Using more hardcore security distros like QubesOS is not very realistic as a daily driver. You’ll see Linux nerds name drop it and claim they know what they’re talking about, but none of them will actually dailt drive it because it’s a very painful experience. Just stick with flatpaks as much as you can for pretty solid security.

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What security stuff/mitigations are added on Fedora that are not on Ubuntu?

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Ubuntu is bad privacy-wise because it has opt-out telemetry. The telemetry is not very invasive though and I wouldn’t really call it a privacy risk. There are other reasons to prefer other distros over Ubuntu though

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Not making a case for Ubuntu but even Fedora has opt-out telemetry.

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Looks like they do add quite a bit security features. Having SELinux installed and working out of the box being the biggest. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Features

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My question is simple: Which of these security features are not enabled/present in Ubuntu that give Fedora an advantage?

SELinux has a functional equivalent called Apparmor that is also enabled out of the box in most distros.

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I think they meant privacy. Windonical doesn’t have a good track record on that front…

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Nope. GP explicitly mentioned security experts that Fedora employs and other security stuff that Fedora apparently has an advantage on over other distros. I wonder if they knew in particular what these advantages are because that got me curious.

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What’s wrong with Ubuntu?

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Depends on what you mean for security/privacy. You can use Tails or whatever and have everything encrypted and then just be logging into your Facebook account on Chrome without an ad blocker.

Most Linux distros are secure enough for the average person who isn’t being targeted by some crazy state level actor. If you’re particularly concerned stick with a distro that has a security team like Debian. As for privacy that has more to do with the sites you browse and have accounts with but obviously avoid Google (I just use Firefox instead of Chrome) use an adblocker like ublock origin, along with maybe something like decentraleyes.

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Chrome phones home a lot. It’s not a good idea to use it if you care about privacy. Firefox even has metrics enabled by default, although you can turn them off.

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