149 points

We’re undoubtedly in the midst of another mass extinction, caused by human activity. Here’s another one that will freak you out:

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Here’s a fun one about the fish:

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61 points

That is not fun. That is the opposite of fun 🤕

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18 points

😢

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21 points

You can see where they decided “Profit, with no consideration of anything else!” was the answer

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9 points

I’m going to guess it wasn’t a decision, so much as tech availability and pricing. radar, sonar, more powerful boats with bigger trawl nets.

If they’d had that stuff earlier it’d be the same tragedy of the same commons.

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This is kind of misleading since they closed the fishery (I think in the 90s), so the amount of cod catch would naturally plummet. The fishery did, however, need to be closed due to overfishing.

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Not exactly; it collapsed, then they closed it once it was too late, and now it’s still fucked, 30 years later.

In the early-1990s, the industry collapsed entirely.

In 1992, John Crosbie, the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, set the quota for cod at 187,969 tonnes, even though only 129,033 tonnes had been caught the previous year.

In 1992 the government announced a moratorium on cod fishing.[12] The moratorium was at first meant to last two years, hoping that the northern cod population would recover and the fishery. However, catches were still low,[16] and thus the cod fishery remained closed.

By 1993 six cod populations had collapsed, forcing a belated moratorium on fishing.[14] Spawning biomass had decreased by at least 75% in all stocks, by 90% in three of the six stocks, and by 99% in the case of “northern” cod, previously the largest cod fishery in the world.[14] The previous increases in catches were wrongly thought to be due to “the stock growing” but were caused by new technologies such as trawlers.[13]

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Dude. This is loaded as fuck misinformation and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Cod fishing on Canada’s eastern coastal area has been banned since 1992. That’s why it’s flattened out to nothing all of a sudden. They stopped Cod fishing there.

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Cod fishing on Canada’s eastern coastal waters was halted in 1992 for two years, with the plan being that the population would recover and they could start fishing again. Did you think the population recovered and they just decided not to start fishing again because they forgot? Or that they just had woken up one day and decided to take the drastic step of banning fishing and throwing 30,000 people out of work and destroying one of their thriving industries because nothing had happened to the fish?

The collapse happened before the ban, not after. And they took long enough to notice and implement it that the fishery was driven to total, semi-permanent collapse before the ban, to an extent that they didn’t fully realize until several years had gone by and the fish still hadn’t recovered.

Here’s a pretty detailed summary of the before and after. In 2005, after 13 years of the ban, the cod biomass off Canada’s coast was still about 3% of its pre-industrial-fishing levels. That’s why there’s still a ban: Not that they just hate sending out boats and bringing in fish, but that the population’s still fucked and not really recovering, and so any fishing would be simply giving some additional cleaver-whacks to the already dead golden goose. I don’t know what the numbers are now, but I would be surprised if they are dramatically better, and I think the chart I cited is an extremely honest and vivid picture of the results of overfishing, and not loaded or anything else as-fuck.

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There’s something wrong with this data.

The fraction of asses should be way higher.

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That’s some badass ass assessment.

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6 points

TIL there are animals called Ass

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13 points

Isn’t it just another word for donkey?

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7 points

Mammal biomass is 1% ass

And yeah, they’re donkeys. We have wild donkeys where I live, they’re feral asses

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6 points

Why is that supposed to freak me out? We cultivate animals for consumption and there’s not a 1:1 absorption/usage ratio. Now add insect biomass.

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This makes no sense… It says pets aren’t included.

There are 500-700 million dogs worldwide. There are only just under 59 million horses.

I don’t believe any of this as a result.

Edit: and 35 million camels …and only a billion cattle. This entire thing is demonstrably bullshit.

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700 million dogs x 17 kg per dog = 12 Mt of dog

59 million horses x 700 kg per horse = 41 Mt of horse

If horses are 2%, then dogs are 0.5%, less than 1% just like they said

35 million camels x 500 kg per camel = 17 Mt of camel, a little less than 1%

I think the key thing is they’re measuring biomass, not just the number of animals, otherwise it would all be stuff like mice and rats (not to say that wouldn’t be a valid thing to look at also)

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BioMASS is not about the number of animals but about their mass. Sure there’s a lot of dogs and cats but they don’t weigh as much as a camel.

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And that’s only because whales and elephants are so massive.

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It doesn’t help that we chose the meatiest animals to keep as livestock and then made sure they got even fatter than they started by any means necessary. One factory farmed cow probably weighs like 12 wild deer and a few wild rabbits for good measure.

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yes exactly

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1 point

Presumably subway rats and other vermin count as wild?

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1 point

and how is that relevant to what I said?

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4 points

Asses?

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11 points

Ass = Donkey

Arse = Butt

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3 points

Yo Brit donkey

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Fits on a graph better than “Donkeys” I suppose.

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3 points

Don’t worry guys, the billionaires already built their bunkers and their space ships! Just as planned.

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3 points

There is no cow level.

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122 points

Oh, my. I hadn’t even noticed how much less I’ve had to clean my Windshield lately. That is a very bad sign…

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51 points

It’s been a couple years since I’ve had to scrape the bugs from my windows.

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I had to last week. It was the first time in years.

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In Sacramento I clean mine almost daily. Just depends where you are really. Lots of farm land will always have lots of bugs.

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Waaiiittt… How fast you need to go to get flies on your windows? I think my place has much more flies but i never saw this thing

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10 points

Couldn’t that also be new improvements in car aerodynamics where bugs simply glide off instead of getting squished?

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Apparently, it’s the other way around, presumably because unaerodynamic cars pushed around a big air cone, which deflected the insects.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/12/car-splatometer-tests-reveal-huge-decline-number-insects

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I was thinking the other day that we no longer see bugs around the house I grew up in. When I was a kid my house was always full of bugs, we live next to a protected natural area, so it was impossible to keep them out. Anyways, I’ve always loved bugs so they were welcome. I moved out and whenever I go there are no animals to be seen. I can’t even hear birds or see iguanas walking around. It’s so disturbing.

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I’m 51, I spent the 90’s in Louisiana, and since my wife doesn’t fly, we have driven across the USA more times than we can count. In the 90’s, if you didn’t have a bug screen on your grill, the LoveBugs would clog your radiator and you would over heat. You also needed the windshield scrib and squeegee to scrub off the bug splatter every time you filled up. Now, you don’t need either of them.

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I have been thinking about this recently. How much of this is lack of bugs vs aerodynamics. I mean back in the day we all drove big rectangles. I’m not denying the fact that it could be a mass extinction of bugs. Just curious.

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Nope, seems to purely be the mass extinction thing. In fact:

modern cars hit more bugs, perhaps because older models push a bigger layer of air – and insects – over the vehicle.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/12/car-splatometer-tests-reveal-huge-decline-number-insects

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11 points

Same in Europe.

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Drove a ton in the 90s all across the US as well every year there was a couple several thousand mile vacations starting from near Kansas city.

The bugs were bad, but we never needed a bug screen on the grill. I never even remember seeing something like that exist, actually. Definitely less bugs now, though.

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2 points

Lucky. I-10 could get ridiculous between the black cricket things, the love bugs, the dragon flies, etc.

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Same age. Dad taught me to always clean the windshield when we filled up. Yeah.

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This has bothered me for years. It’s a really strange thing to be telling younger relatives about how you legitimately could not drive any substantial distance without windshield cleaner at certain times of year. I remember them being plastered across the front edge of the hood and against the radiator after a long trip.

It’s one of the most visibly different things about the world today, IMO, and it’s a little eerie.

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The sounds, too.

I was talking with my dad walking near to a place that had frogs croaking, and he got a little emotional and excited to hear them over the phone. Normally it’s just traffic noises now, and silence.

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I remember the wasps always buzzing around the vehicle grills munching on all the dead bugs too. Now it’s just shiny and chrome.

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I still remember 10 years ago when I was driving on the Autobahn at 130 km/h and a juicy bug hit the windshield. It was literally a loud splat. Besides the grill always being covered in bugs.

Hasn’t happened since, nowadays I can count the number of bugs on the grill with one hand. And that’s after months of driving.

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When I was a kid, there used to be hundreds of fireflies in my backyard in the summer. Now, I get excited to see even two or three.

I blame the anti-mosquito pesticide services half my neighbors seem to hire.

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Where I grew up, the city wanted to hire a bunch of trucks to drive around spraying malathion into the air. They had a vote, and the town voted overwhelmingly that, fuck no they did not want that, please don’t do that, that sounds awful. Then they did it anyway.

Same thing; now there are pretty much 0 fireflies.

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11 points

Why did they even have a vote then? They just hoped everyone would say yes?

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2 points

Who the fuck knows

(Not me 😕)

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Governing bodies regularly consist of bored narcissists who only act in their own self-interests.

They wanted less mosquitoes and held a mock election to confirm their interests and did what they wanted even though the people disagreed because they knew better, as they were the ruling class elected to carry out the piblic good aa they understand it.

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8 points

Blame the raking of the leaves. No leaves in fall means no place for the eggs to be laid and no place for the larvae to grow. It’s another casualty to grass lawns. A “clean” nature is a place where nothing has room to thrive.

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I try to help what little I can there by not raking (or if I do, I collect and move into our fenced in section so insects can still make use of them). It does also help my laziness that I have a legitimate reason to not rake.
Not sure if it helps or not since I do mow the leaves with the grass at the start of the summer.

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