What the title says, I’m tired of the trope where humans are the least advanced in the universe.
I’d like to read something different where we’re the more advanced ones (not necessarily the most advanced). As an example I quite enjoyed the Ender’s Game sequels and the angle of us being the more advanced ones was quite interesting.
Do you have any recommendations?
This is a driving factor in a majority of Star Trek fiction.
I’d watch star trek if i can skip the old ones. I’m sorry die hard star trek fans but the cgi in those times is just way too terrible for me. I’m sure i can maybe skip to the new ones and just spoil the older shows for myself to get the jist though.
Edit: wait are we talking books or movies/shows? I come from the (everything) fediverse section my bad
the cgi in those times is just way too terrible
In their defense, it was pretty hard to do good Computer-Generated Imagery without computers… 😉
You can watch Star Trek: Strange New Worlds easily without watching the old ones (I only watched a few episodes of the older ones when I was young).
I also recommend The Orville if you’re into Seth MacFarlane’s type of comedy
Foundation or Dune pop immediately into my mind. Asimov has an interesting view of humanity. As does Herbert. No aliens really in those books though. Honor Harrington series is also about humanity’s dominance in space. Edit thanks saintwacko for the correction lol
Interestingly, the trend in 1940s SF was for humans to always be superior to aliens; John W. Campbell, the editor for Astounding, particularly liked this view. Asimov hated this trend, so that’s why the Foundation series has no aliens in it; as a result he could sell the stories to Campbell without having to write about the inferiority of aliens. It’s also why Asimov wrote a lot of three-law robot stories at this time, as he didn’t mind writing humans to be superior to robots.
Forgive me if I am uninformed, as it has been a while since I read Dune and I never read the complete series, but that universe doesn’t have aliens in it, does it?
Does Foundation have any either? I’ve only watched the series on Apple TV (which I know is very divergent from the books) but it also seems to involve mainly humans and their creations than anything else.
No, you are correct. Both series are in the Humans are the only sentient space civ camp.
If you want to split hairs, it’s said that it seems like sandworms weren’t originally native to Arrakis and had to have originated elsewhere.
Where they were from originally and who brought them there is never really gone into, it could potentially have been aliens, or given how far in the future takes place it could have been previously human settlers who died out and been lost to history thousands of years prior to the events of the book.
You could also probably really get into it about whether some of the tleilaxu creations really count as humans.
I’ve read both and while I agree both series are great (though Dune gets really weird in the later books), this is not what I’m after. I’ll check out Honor Harrington (I assume that’s what you meant, Hunter found me some tennis dude.
The Honor Harrington series actually has some interesting tech disparities, besides being pretty good/exciting military science fiction.
In the first book, there are Bronze-Age-ish aboriginals.
In the second book, you see several human polities. Harrington interacts with less technologically/culturally developed groups of humans, and there are frictions and opportunities coming from the more advanced polity.
Harrington’s polity generally remains the most technologically advanced group. There’s later interaction with human polities who had thought they were the top dog, in terms of military power.
Just to note, it’s a big series that gets somewhat too sprawling in the later books. The earlier books are Age of Sail (IN SPACE!!!) adventures, which transforms into a wide-ranging interstellar war driven by technology change. Weber’s analogy is sailing ships -> steam ironclads -> Dreadnaught battleships -> WW2 radar directed gunnery / aircraft carriers. Not everyone is at the same tech level.
I ended up hating the books by the end. It felt like no one was keeping Weber’s need to info dump in check. He also let his tendency to write bad guys with no redeeming qualities get out of hand. It felt like a complete drag at the end as when the political situation escalated the tech gap meant that there wasn’t as much risk for Manticore.
The Bobiverse is a fun read. Highly recommend
It’s fun but on the second re-read I can’t help but notice how first-person perspective is extremely overused and the overall writing style could use some refinement.
Yeah it’s not great writing but it’s fun so I’m cool with it. Fourth book should not have happened though.
The one with the space river megastructure? I really liked that one actually, kinda reminded me of Ringworld with the whole “exploring an alien megastructure whose inhabitants don’t know how to build such things anymore” sorta plot.
Stargate SG-1 has a VERY interesting premise. Humans start from 0 and we see them gradually learning new technology and making alliances (Plus, the original cast is just stellar)
Not sure if this is what you are looking for.
Iain M Banks Culture books centre around The Culture a human civ (but not earth humans) who are one of the most advanced civs in a milky way with tens of thousands of sentient races at various level of development.
Reading some of your other replies I think you will enjoy, The Culture. Banks created a galaxy that really feels lived in and the interactions of the civs at various tech levels works really well.
