This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the “10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter” bs are cranks. It’s jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn’t real level of crank shit and unless you’re feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.
The only famous video/image 99.9% of all Americans see of it is tank man NOT getting run over by a tank, and even then so many of them will be like “um yeah you don’t want to know what happens after the video cuts off” but the full video DOESNT CUT OFF AND HE JUST WALKS AWAY UNHARMED.
Meanwhile in America if you google “NYPD running over protestors” your results will be like:
-NYPD running over protestors May 2024
-NYPD running over protestors February 2024
-NYPD running over protestors December 2023
-NYPD running over protestors October 2023
-NYPD running over protestors March 2023
And so on and so on, and that’s just in one city
EV_Dabs supercut link anyone? I know the original uploads got deleted, but I though someone reuploaded them under a new account.
Sorry, I’ve seen a video linked here a few times that’s pretty much exactly your comment, so I assumed you might have seen it too. I thought it was from a prolific user (Eugene_V_Dabs) that posted here a while back, but I don’t see it in the linked archive (I may have overlooked it, the titles are not easy to parse for content).
Hopefully I can find the link eventually, and I won’t seem so weird.
Actual footage from Tiananmen square as covered by the CPC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8dqOuHqcBQ
https://youtu.be/7bl_cyYHwNQ
Explanation of what happened
https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/
Translation of official government explanation
https://www.mango-press.com/report-on-stopping-unrest-and-quelling-counter-revolutionary-riots/
Tankman full vid
https://youtu.be/GRb4VY2dU4c
Yeah, a bunch of people run up and push him out of hte way of the tanks. And no one ever talks about how he climbed up on to the tank to have a chat with the tank commander, then climbed down, and absolutely nothing happened to him. Imagine climbing on to a cop MRAP or APC in the US.
My headcannon is that the tank commander was his kid and he climbed up there to discuss what they were having for dinner.
They tried to go around him multiple times, then when they realized he was just gonna block their way, they decided to stop so they wouldn’t accidentally crush him lol. That’s authoritarian.
There’s a Parenti line something like “the evil 1984 authoritarian CCCP USSR… broke up without major bloodshed”
The only famous video/image 99.9% of all Americans see of it is tank man NOT getting run over by a tank, and even then so many of them will be like “um yeah you don’t want to know what happens after the video cuts off” but the full video DOESNT CUT OFF AND HE JUST WALKS AWAY UNHARMED.
The ones that have seen the full thing all say “but then he was disappeared afterwards” with no evidence and everyone just totally believes it because they just believe that’s what China does.
The guy gets escorted by what looks like bystanders concerned about his well-being. But if you ask redditors, they were undercover agents who took him to a black site to execute him even though he was just a guy coming home from shopping and not an activist lol. It’s the equivalent of an american cop killing a random student because he happened to stop by to ask a cop what the protests are about - which is more likely to happen than the tank man being killed
This is my go to for the power of propaganda but it only works in person. It’s “Do you know what happened to the Tank Man at Tienanman Square?” People almost always answer that he was run over. The response is great because while we don’t know exactly what happened to him we know one thing for certain; he was not run over. That’s the one thing we can say for sure and its the one thing they believe happened through the power of propaganda.
https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php (rare dub for Columbia)
Pretty much everything people believe about it isn’t true, but nobody cares because it’s aimed at bad country
I’m still shocked they actually admitted Saddam’s shredder wasn’t real.
Saddam’s shredder?!?!?! I am too young to remember Saddam, please elaborate
They said Saddam owned a woodchipper or big shredder that he would throw dissidents in to execute them and destroy the body.
The moment I realized r/LateStageCapitalism had been ruined was when someone was unironically defending the Iraq War by referring to Saddam’s shredder. In the old days that person would’ve been quickly banned.
The fact that most Americans just assume tank man got run over and killed even after seeing part of the video of it is what genuinely drives me insane. Like the rest of the video is readily available bro you can see him walk away
That baffles me, because even when I was a turbolib I realized the whole point was that one guy was holding up the tanks. If they had just run him over, why would they have stopped?
As a kid, I figured he singlehandedly stopped the tanks from doing something terrible.
Pretty much all lib claims about it can be debunked by two minutes on Wikipedia, which is generally a pretty anti-China source itself. Goes to show they’ve done literally zero research.
Here’s a good aggregation of sources, many of the mainstream western press:
https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/
some of the lib-friendly sources used:
https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/
Thank you! Just to add even more sources regarding the reality of the 6-4 incident, here is a carrd with a whole slew of good links with descriptions. Some are redundant with the links you posted, but there are a lot of others, including things like the full “Tank Man” video and a section with “Mentions in State-Owned Media In China [refuting the “censor” narrative].” I believe our comrade @robinnn@hexbear.net put it together (along with other ones on Xinjiang, DPRK, and the Holodomor).
