Link to the modlog: https://reddthat.com/modlog/11298
Link to the community: !movies@lemmy.world
Edit: for context, I first sent a DM to the single mod asking them if we could consider merging communities (basically my comment below). They ignored me but opened the thread.
My comment
Should we maybe consider merging this one with !movies@lemm.ee ? We have regular pinned posts and movie-specific discussion threads over there, and that community has been more active than this one lately, be it weekly or monthly (1.54k vs 1.32k and 2.92k vs 2.51k). The moderation team has several people, including movie enthusiasts who post there regularly. We had our first AMA a while ago a few weeks ago: https://lemm.ee/post/31335226 And if people ask why we wanted to have a community on another instance than Lemmy.world, the large majority of active communities are already on LW (https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active), it seems better to spread communities a bit.
Reason for removal
Not currently considering this action Maybe in the future.
I guess I’m just a bit sad that they removed the comment altogether instead of letting it there and considering a discussion.
I’ve heard several times that Lemmy should consolidate communities (like what happened with !mapporn@lemmy.world and !map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz recently), but I guess it’s easier said than done.
In the meantime, congrats for making this community the most active one!
Your intentions here may be positive, but you’re basically asking them to shut down their community and posting an ad for your community on theirs to take their traffic. I can see why they removed it and don’t see any problem with that. Send them a DM next time
Hello,
I sent a DM first. The mod didn’t reply to me but opened this thread.
but you’re basically asking them to shut down their community and posting an ad for your community on theirs to take their traffic.
Yes, that worked before with the mod of !mapporn@lemmy.world (send them a DM, they agreed, consulted their community and then locked the community).
As I said, it’s their choice, I agree to disagree, but they could have left the comment instead of removing it.
They have no obligation to leave up your comment which is actively trying to redirect their traffic to your community. I don’t get why you think removing it was a problem
If someone was to make the same comment in this community, I would leave it and discuss why or why not it should happen. I usually only remove content that is disrespectful (insults, harassment) or break the rules. Removing opinions you disagree with doesn’t seem to create a healthy space for conversation.
Also, traffic itself isn’t worth much, and actively moderating a community isn’t a task a lot of people want to do (as you can see in the post, nobody really volunteers).
About it being “my” community, I accept any mod who would like to help (we now have a few, that is nice). There isn’t any real benefit of moderating a community, it’s more of a hassle than anything else, which is probably why nobody wanted to do it over there.
I sent a DM first. The mod didn’t reply to me but opened this thread.
Awkwardly enough, I’m wondering if sometimes a DM doesn’t federate? I feel like I’ve had DMs get ignored, but am wondering now if it was a federation issue.
Your suggestion makes sense to me. But there is also nothing wrong with them wanting to keep running their own community. It’s just something that has to work itself out over time I guess.
But there is also nothing wrong with them wanting to keep running their own community.
Fragmentation of discussion when the people commenting aren’t that many in the first place. That’s the main issue for me, and that’s why I’ve been trying to push for consolidation of communities
I agree. But they can still ultimately do what they want, and that’s a good thing. Just keep working on building an active and welcoming community and things will turn out fine.
But they can still ultimately do what they want, and that’s a good thing.
I mean, at least with public modlogs they are accountable for what they do.
I think it can be good that there are a few communities for the same thing, so that people have options if there’s deferedation drama in the future.
Yea generally I agree, you kinda need the options to exist before things go to shit.
But when it comes to communities it’s pretty easy to create new ones and advertise them whenever something goes bad. That’s basically what happened with this one after lemmy.film went down. And plenty seem to find the community fragmentation annoying, or at least used to say so. I’m not sure where the balance sits, but at least talking about the possibility of trying to organise better probably makes sense.
Hello,
It is indeed good that there are a few communities on the same topic.
At the moment, we have (sorted by weekly activity: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=movies&order=active)
- !movies@lemm.ee
- !movies@lemmy.world
- !movies@hexbear.net
- !moviesandtv@lemm.ee
- !entertainment@beehaw.org
- honorable mention for !movies@kbin.social but kbin.social is down now
The hexbear and beehaw communities are a good example of what you mentioned.
On the other hand, do we really need the !movies@lemm.ee, !movies@lemmy.world, and !moviesandtv@lemm.ee, on instances that are all federated with each other, and leading to a fragmentation of discussions across three places?
I don’t see the current situation with the communities as being too bad for now. I see it more as a problem that most of the users are registered on one big instance like lemmy.world, because here the users are the ones who produce the content and not the platforms. So if lemmy.world is down then it is immediately more noticeable in comment/posting activity compared to if it would be only mostly their communities being down.
In the meantime, congrats for making this community the most active one!
I like this one 😊 Nice work on getting it going!
I agree that it’s silly to remove comments offering alternatives.
- It will make people worry about if the decision is a fair one / one that the rest of the community agrees with
- Other people are likely thinking the same thing, but they won’t see the explanation for why it’s not being pursued. That’s not as productive as openly explaining why
It’s totally fine to not want to merge, but responding in the thread would be better
As I’ve said before, I don’t have an issue with there being more than one community per subject - it comes down to survival of the fittest and successful communities will tend to gain the focus.
There will likely always be a l.w community for any major topic even if others are thriving elsewhere. Movies in particular is a big enough subject that this is inevitable and, currently, no individual community is covering all movie news, so it is handy to have a couple to subscribe to in order to get a more comprehensive feed.
Some have their own niche, like: !movies@hexbear.net which is mainly memes.
Communities that should be shuttered:
Hello,
Thanks for chiming in, I’ll post in those communities to see if they are still active.
It’s not just the community activity, but the Mod’s. For the first three that is 12 months, 10 months and no Mod (also no posts). The last has three More, 2 have been gone 6 months, and the other 1 month.
