132 points

Yes, we need to accept that it is broken and move on to something that isn’t

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39 points

Let’s call it Newgle

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15 points

Isn’t that a demon in Warhammer?

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11 points

Lougle has a better ring to it.

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9 points

You are the patron saint of the totally fucked.

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I’ll wait a few years for the Walougle fork, thanks

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2 points

Twogle!

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10 points

This post made me actually pay for kagi

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oh I totally agree. they’ve got good pizza and history though.

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79 points

Some of us left it behind quite awhile ago:-).

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43 points

The problem is that a fuckton of the web is SEO poisoned, so even a better search engine will find garbage because for a lot of subjects garbage is all that’s available.

The best chef in the world can’t turn shit into anything you want to eat.

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This is what they want you to think but they’re hardly even trying. Google is shitty on purpose because if initial search results are bad, you “engage” more and see more ads. And since they’re not worried about competition because google is the default search nearly everywhere – most people don’t even know there are alternatives, google is synonymous with search – they can enshittify their search as much as they want. https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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2 points

That’s what I enjoy about kagi: because I can block and rank sources, I get to do some reverse-SEO, and the results are really good with remarkably few adjustments.

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I don’t understand what you are saying. If some other search methodology were to use the same exact methodology of Google in paying attention to the SEO terms, then obviously it would fall prey to the same thing that killed Google. Similarly if the method was not precisely 100% identical yet still used SEO, then it too would be poisoned.

However, if the search method were to ignore SEO entirely and focus purely on the content of the page, plus other metrics such as number of links to that page, from other highly-ranked websites, but independently of SEO, then it would not be poisoned by SEOs. Although it might suck due to other causes, either related or not.

Anyway it all depends so heavily on what you want to find - e.g. a replacement for Google Maps is harder, and Google Images is also fairly great too.

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23 points

i can’t tell if you know more or less than me about what SEO is

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13 points

A lot of content sites have altered how they write articles to be in line with google SEO to drive traffic. In doing this, the content that can be found by any search engine is now of lower quality.

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What Google used to do is a lot of manual effort to keep SEO stuff at a minimum. You can’t make it go away entirely, but it was a give-and-take that basically worked.

We’re stuck now because Google decided they didn’t want to spend the money on it anymore, so the SEO people won.

However, if the search method were to ignore SEO entirely and focus purely on the content of the page

As another poster mentions, SEO is about gaming the content so search engines pick them up. If you change your algorithm, they’ll just change their methods. Google’s old method may be the only way to clamp down on it.

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33 points

DuckDuckGo is just Bing.

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49 points

It’s not just Bing. They added an animal mascot. :-D

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10 points

Explains why it so good for finding porn

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12 points

In terms of results, yes. But at least there’s no ads, nor sponsored results, nor bloody AI crap.

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Please explain

Nice. Downvoted for asking for more information.

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4 points

It’s powered by Bing. That’s all. Compare DDG results with a private Bing session.

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15 points

Also Quant, Ecosia, Startpage

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6 points

What do you like about those over searx?

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5 points

I love searx but it’s slow 🙁

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2 points

Qwant is the best one by far, imo

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2 points

im using ecosia rn

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7 points

Doesn’t that just use Bing?

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5 points

Yes. Go ahead and find a free Google alternative that doesn’t.

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i think so, but the results are in any case mostly okay in my experience, and they have an AI feature that ACTUALLY WORKS since it just summarizes relevant parts of wikipedia articles and links you to the precise sections it used.

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2 points

Yes, but I use it over Bing because Bing filters most of its news articles through MSN and then pressures you to download the app. Either way, both are giving me better results than Google at this point.

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2 points

DuckDuckGo has AI now.

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2 points

Oh fuck!

Looks like you can turn it off though - https://duckduckgo.com/settings#aifeatures.

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0 points

And use what instead of??

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6 points

Duckduckgo, searxng, and if you are willing to pay, kagi is far better than google was.

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7 points

“is” absolutely, “was” there was a time in the mid-teens when Google’s search was god-like in its powers of finding what I wanted.

Duckduckgo is ok but not great even, although search in general is harder nowadays I think

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3 points

Kagi has some problems

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0 points

Bing

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54 points

Asked Google assistant today what the withdrawal symptoms of Adderall were… got told the suicide prevention hotline. So, that was fun.

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To be fair, any drug of abuse potential will usually trigger SAMSHA links in the US by law. That might have been what you saw, and it’s been that way for at least a decade.

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19 points

That’s… Less than helpful.

(Also, I can try to field this one for you: headaches, fatigue, mental fogginess, sometimes temporary depressed mood or irritability, maybe increased appetite?)

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21 points

WTF is this sexy Garfield

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10 points

Google has been mining your dreams

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5 points

Lets check the google results for italy Huh no results?

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39 points

Today I was trying to look up the syntax for how to search before a certain date on Google. The google AI overview turned out to be wrong

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