People are a little bit stingier in barber chairs and Ubers than they were just a few years ago.

The shares of adults who say they always tip their hair stylists, servers at sit-down restaurants and food delivery people have each fallen 8 percentage points since 2021, according to a Bankrate survey released Wednesday. That rate slipped 7 percentage points for taxi and ride-hail drivers over the same period.

Three years ago, the economy was reopening from the pandemic and inflation was higher than it is now, but so was concern for front-line workers.

At the time, three-quarters of consumers reported always tipping restaurant servers, but today just two-thirds do. Despite modest upticks since last year, barely more than half of people now count themselves reliable tippers of hairdressers (55%) and food delivery drivers (51%), while only 41% say the same when it comes to ordering a ride.

The survey reflects Americans’ growing ease bypassing ubiquitous tipping prompts, from coffeeshops to airport terminals in the post-Covid economy, especially as sticker prices have risen. While consumer spending has held remarkably steady, many households are feeling the squeeze from persistent inflation and tightening their belts accordingly. Some of that newfound caution may be factoring into when, where and how much people tip.

26 points

I don’t know about hairdressers and drivers, but many servers are legally paid less than minimum wage because they are expected to make up the difference in tips.

So this is essentially people being fucked over by not being paid enough fucking over other people who aren’t being paid enough. And if you object to them not being paid enough, the solution isn’t to not tip them, it’s to not go to the restaurant.

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They are supposed to be paid the difference if tips plus base pay don’t add up to minimum wage. But I’m guessing a lot of places don’t do it.

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The minimum wage for tip workers is often lower in most states then minimum wage for non-tipped workers.

New York is the only state that I know of that has a minimum wage equity law where tipped workers have to be paid the same minimum wage as anyone else after tips, and if they aren’t, the employer has to make up the difference.

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12 points

California has, for a while now, required that tipped workers be paid the same minimum wage as anyone else, period. Tips are extras on top of minimum wage.

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11 points

No, that’s a Federal requirement, too. It only requires them to be brought up to the $7.25/hour Federal minimum wage so it’s pretty useless, but it exists.

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In Oregon tipped employees are required to be paid the state minimum wage. Tips are considered extra on top of that. Seems to be an exception though unfortunately.

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California as well. Tipped workers make the service industry minimum wage, which is actually higher than the state or city minimum wages, so they make $20 an hour plus tips. Which means that they are barely scraping by.

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4 points

If you aren’t making up the difference, you probably aren’t going to last long anyway.

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22 points

% based tips are bullshit and always have been. And moving the scale up to 18,20,22 is insane.

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16 points

Especially because a 15% tip is almost twice as good as it was 10 years ago due to rising food costs

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6 points

Yes! The raise is already built in.

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36 points

Anyone else notice the “essential workers” never got that minimum wage increase?

I get republicans not supporting it, but the moderate Dems not fighting for them is going to hurt in November…

Voters know Republicans obstruct progress, but they need to see that Dems are at least willing to have the fight.

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16 points

Where I live they got it. While it isn’t law, the local fast food is all starting at $16/hour or more.

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I mean, wages can go down, and will go down when there’s a larger labor pool.

Which is why we should have taken advantage of the small labor pool during COVID to raise minimum wage.

We had a chance to raise it while workers have leverage, but republicans will always oppose it and moderate Dems didn’t push for it, so nothing happened.

That’s wildly considered the biggest negative of moderate Dems, they don’t act when we have the leverage to get things done. They tell us to be happy with temporary things we can lose tomorrow, like how they refused to modify Roe v Wade while we had the numbers to codify it, now it’s gone.

They don’t actually want to fight for us. They’re controlled opposition to make sure when we do have the opportunity/leverage to fix shit, we waste that time “looking into” if we should really fix it. Then when the opportunity passes, they say they tried.

But they didn’t.

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1 point

In California they got it. Fast food is $20 an hour to start.

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I’m a generous tipper at sit down restaurants, but draw the line at places where I’m grabbing a prepackaged sandwich and drink and being asked to tip the employee to literally ring up the items at the cash register. I wonder if the expansion of this practice is turning people off of tipping even when it’s warranted, hence these statistics

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Yeah. The blurbs examples are places you really need to tip. They are providing a direct service to you. But pretty much every digital pay interface is asking for tips now. And a lot of them aren’t even offering 15%. They start at 18% and go up. It is really souring me on going out at all.

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Pretty much every sit-down restaurant now has tips calculated on the bill, and 15% is never one of the calculations. It’s typically 18%, 20%, and 22%, but I’ve seen them start higher.

Is this due to the same machines? Since it can differ, I assume it’s the owner who chooses to make it higher.

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It depends on what payment thing they use. Most places use a third-party payment POS and stick with default settings.

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The blurbs examples are places you really need to tip. They are providing a direct service to you.

Do you really not realize how ridiculous this sounds?

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Yes. But there is no other alternative in America. If you stiff servers, they get hurt. If enough people do it, they quit and your favorite places die. You can encourage places that don’t allow tipping and pay a living wage but those are so rare as to be pointless.

Only assholes refuse to tip for service in America.

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there’s a new fast food drive through near me and if you buy a $13 burger with plastic they turn the little machine to you at your car window and expect you to enter a fucking tip.

I’m an overtipping bastard. I learned to tip from Steve Martin in My Blue Heaven. i love to tip.

I even tip at the weed store and the liquor store if they give me suggestions or any kind of service in addition to ringing me up.

YOU CAN SUCK MY DICK ASKING ME TO TIP IN THE GODDAMN DRIVE THROUGH!!!

I’m not eating there because the burgers are too expensive for how good they are ($5.50 for a plain kids burger come on) but even if I loved the food i’m not tipping for fast food.

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24 points

To be clear, it’s never warranted. It’s just some cultures that have normalized the practice for certain services. Companies should always fully pay their employees. Full stop.

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Not true. It depends on the job and the state. NY for example, has a tip allowance of $5 per hour. That means establishments can pay their servers $10 per hour and still meet minimum wage law, because the staff is expected to make at least $5 per hour in tips.

While I agree that employers should pay their staff well, it’s standard practice for servers in NY to be underpaid and rely on tips as part of their income.

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14 points

All of that also being known as…normalization.

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen this written about so -

The reason these tipping prompts are so egregiously inescapable now is that those point of sales systems are handed out by Clover and the like when the business starts using them for POS and inventory and credit card processing.

For each CC transaction, the business pays something like 2-3% of the transaction and so the CC processor becomes incentivized to make that transaction amount higher. That’s how we got here. You’re being guilted into tipping a shitty tech company.

Carry cash. Pay cash whenever possible. That’s how you avoid that screen.

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Is clover getting money for cc transactions? I thought it was the cc companies charging that fee.

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Clover or whoever also gets money for letting whoever use their system. They get an upfront fee then a percent of sales.

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Point of sale companies like Clover charge a fee and the credit card company gets a cut of that. The rest is for the point of sale’s services.

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Credit Card companies (ie MasterCard or Visa) typically have a flat per transaction fee that is very small (like fractional cent small). The processors are the ones that take the percentage cut (PoS and your bank). It’s been a bit since the last time I looked into it, so things could be a bit different, but I would be surprised if it was.

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These used to be separate things, but now most of the older POS systems have been bought by the processors or, with the “newer” systems, were in the business of processing from the get go. It’s all very incestuous.

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No

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