"…For Nvidia, after this latest run-up took it north of the $3T milestone, the company is being valued at more than $100M for each of its 29,600 employees (per its filing that counted up to the end of Jan 2024).

That’s more than 5x any of its big tech peers, and hundreds of times higher than more labor-intensive companies like Walmart and Amazon. It is worth noting that Nvidia has very likely done some hiring since the end of January — I think the company might be in growth mode — but even if the HR department has been working non-stop, Nvidia will still be a major outlier on this simple measure.

We are running out of ways to describe Nvidia’s recent run… but a nine-figure valuation per employee is a new one."

8 points
*

AI is certainly a bubble but Nvidia has been working on this stuff long before the hype. I don’t think you can easily dismiss them. Personally I don’t think the future of AI is giant data centres, it will be running in desktops GPUs and dedicated AI chips. It already is.

permalink
report
reply
3 points

It will be both. AI local and AI cloud.

For the average person every day use AI will be local on device. But companies with massive data sets will be processed with a data center.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

Are they gonna pay them out? /s

Every employee could create their own companies and products. Opportunities and diversification!

Alternatively, each and every one of them can make 101 millionaires and still be a millionaire themselves!

permalink
report
reply
8 points

Are they gonna pay them out? /s

Most Nvidia employees are paid in company stock. They have made millions in the last year.

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points

The great thing about the stock market compared to other investments like crypto is that stocks are based on the inherent value of the business they represent. Stocks are based on financial fundamentals. You can believe in those investments because they are based on something real and not simply rampant speculation. For example.

Tesla. Worth more than most of the rest of the car market combined because… reasons?

Paypal. Lost 80% of its value starting in July 2021 over a year and never recovered because of terrible problems? Huge losses? Nope, because it “only” grew at 8-9%.

2008 US housing rated as “AAA” investment i.e. “good as cash” based on actual trash.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

In the long term it works quite a bit better as a valuation tool. Bubbles tend to not last very long.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

because they are based on something real and not simply rampant speculation.

/s

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I mean… It would be true if there were no derivatives. When you start betting money on whether the line goes up or down, the stock price cases being reflective of the stock’s value.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

In my understanding, derivatives amplify the problems and risks. Underlying that are the money people who push on these systems as hard as they can and exploit every angle. Along the lines of pushing the boundaries, the practice of brokers “loaning” shares seems like another place that’s bound to cause issues at its limits. I really wish the govt would step in and impose much stricter regulation. I’d like to trust that buying stock is investing in a company rather than feeling like the stock market is a school of small fish swimming with sharks who cheat as much as they believe they can get away with. If the focus was on dividends vs growth, I think we’d be better off. Maybe I am wrong but that’s how I see it.

I think of it like network security. Anything you do not explicitly disallow will be used, tried, and used in ways you probably didn’t think of. It isn’t a matter of expecting people to do the right (or legal) thing, most will but it’s a surety that some will not. That’s normal and why security is a process and systems have to adapt over time in response.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points
*

This is definitely realistic and not an over valuation based on AI-hype investor brain rot. Like, they’re a fucking graphics card company. Like, sure graphics cards can do some cool linear algebra, and linear algebra can do some cool things… but I’m sorry, they’re not going to be earning as much as Apple or Microsoft, companies that sell the whole rest of the computer to people and/or the plurality of software that runs on it.

permalink
report
reply
17 points

Technically, they don’t even make the actual graphics cards, they just design them and then outsource manufacturing to TSMC.

But don’t you know that doesn’t matter, because by 2028 every singe company in the world is going to need a data center filled with tens of thousands of AI accelerators turning their own scrape of the internet into a chatbot, and so one of the companies that makes thouse accelerators is definitely going to have as much business as companies that make half of everyone’s phones or computer software./s

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Designing graphic cards is really fucking hard though plus they make the firmware.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

= AI bubble

permalink
report
reply

Technology

!technology@beehaw.org

Create post

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community’s icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

Community stats

  • 2.7K

    Monthly active users

  • 3.2K

    Posts

  • 56K

    Comments