141 points

Stop using Google. You can’t change them, you have to leave.

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67 points

I’m using Duck Duck Go now.

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I swapped to ddg about a year ago. I’ve noticed their search results are not the greatest either. There is so much spam and paid articles that make it to the top search results I often end up frustrated trying to find what I’m looking for.

The Internet really is enshittified.

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24 points

To be fair I think DDG has improved marginally over the years while Google is simply shit now. I feel like spam sites are quite prevalent on Google but less so on DDG.

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16 points

Is it a viable alternative? How is it going?

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I’ve been using it for years at this point, and I really prefer it to google. For most of my common/easy searches, it gets what I want pretty reliably. Occasionally I’ll have more obscure searches where I do have to switch back to Google, but honestly Google feels less and less helpful for that as time goes on. To add, DDG has bangs which are just wonderfully handy. Turning your search into a google search is as simple as adding “!g” to your query, and it’ll redirect the search. There are tons of other ones too, it’s a really nice feature that makes DDG more convenient in a lot of cases. Very much worth trying out at least

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14 points

I’ve been using duck duck go for months now. It’s totally cromulent in my opinion!

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12 points

It’s really good these days. Kagi is still the beat, but if you want free, DDG is the way to go.

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6 points

Free Google (& other) proxy: SearXNG

Further reading / Instances: Searx.space

One good instance: SearXNG.site


For basic searches (kinda a Bing reseller with disappointing results): DuckDuckGo

Vote-with-your-wallet alternative: Kagi (who may have astroturfed or may have not, but great engine at $10/mo unlimited - have tried their free trial)

Comments of mine RE: why everybody’s just reselling search ($1b+/yr to operate your own crawler): one and two

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It struggles when you have more than one word, it will ignore context and give you results with maximum number of either word. Still better than Google at this point, though.

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works fine for me, and their implementation of AI (only letting it use wikipedia and maybe some select other sources) is pretty nice IMO, perfect for answering questions like “how many people live in X Y Z cities in total?”.

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11 points

Same, but lately Bing fucked with their pricing, and now the search results are usually garbage. I have to go re-search the query in Google way too often.

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You can also look into Ghostery private search also. I’ve been using it some and it appears to be at least as good as DDG. YMMV

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I am also considering switching to Bing.

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6 points

DDG drops ads in results too just not as many yet

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66 points

this is wrong, because today you won’t find the thing you’re looking for at all. Just 100 results where one word of your 5 word query vaguely matches.

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55 points

And then you notice that your search term was “corrected” to something completely different. Looking at you too, Amazon.

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16 points

Fuuuuuuuck Amazon is even worse, if that’s possible. You used to be able to search for a product and would get that as the first result or at least on the first page. Now, they just return shit that is vaguely related but is a paid sponsor or someone manipulating their search algorithms.

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6 points

i follow a channel on youtube called yitube that’s impossible to look up because it gets corrected to youtube. it’s maddening.

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but this doesn’t depict results you’re looking for in “now” unless you assume it is a product search.

edit: I see the yellow is supposed to be the same result. I am ashamed

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5 points

That’s exactly how you make money in the search engine world - by not knowing what your paying customers do.

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2 points

That’s big business on the Internet! No morals, no conscience, just churning out profit for the do nothing class.

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11 points

I rarely trust top results from google, since I’m uncertain if I somehow missed the tiny gray text saying that it’s an add.

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3 points

Yeah, that shit is illegal where I live and search engines do it anyways. Unfortunately not enough lawsuits…

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39 points

Stop using Google.

And Microsoft. And Apple. And Amazon. And every single corporation that cares more about money and stealing people’s privacy than serving you.

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…like AMD and Intel and nVidia and ARM and Apple and Qualcomm?

Oh wait.

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7 points

Yep!

It’s all trash these days. We’re having to just avoid the worst of it while preparing for the rest of it to also suck so bad that we have to find even more alternatives, and then just throw our computers away at the end or at least go back to computing where it wasn’t all about stealing data, long, long ago.

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I get where you’re coming from, but I also feel like I might get kind of bored and I wonder how I’m going to get that hot sauce from Alabama that I like. I’ll give up on a lot of my ideals and trade a LOT of frustration for artisanal hot sauces.

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2 points

Get to know people in the hot sauce community (it exists!) and then you can ask person-to-person!

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5 points

So, do you suggest just not using computers altogether?

Getting some cheap Nokia for the cellphone and be done with it? (Ig a refurbished IBM ThinkPad with FOSS on it is also fine)

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1 point

Old computers, Free OSes. No mobile devices, not even old shitphones. Bring back payphones.

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2 points

Yeah no, i’d rather regulste the industry to hell and back

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35 points

I’m honestly amazed no one’s sued google over the site telling them things like “Jump off a bridge if you’re depressed” or that products have been recalled that haven’t

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Likely settled out of court silently with an NDA

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