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Nah. If you want to be outraged at Google, at least be correct.

This has to do with Google “collections”, not synced bookmarks. Afaik, collections are a thing you only access on mobile through the google app, this doesn’t even have anything to do with Chrome.

If you run chrome on mobile, for example, you don’t have access to the collections. It’s only through the google app.

Almost certain they monitor collections because they can be shared with public.

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They shouldn’t be monitored either way in my opinion as it’s just a bunch of links, but especially not while still private.

Ultimately I don’t think it quite matters if it technically is bookmarks or “collections”, they seem clearly used in the same manner in this case.

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91 points

I don’t care if you’re mad about it like I said. I just care about accuracy. The person in the screenshot and this thread’s title are both inaccurate.

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I didn’t ever indicate I was mad, I simply stated my opinion. We already know it is inaccurate as you shared this in your original comment.

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They aren’t. They are made from links that appear in Google search results. Google is notifying the person that the link you’ve saved is being removed. Therefore it will be removed from your collection as well.

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-9 points

Keep licking that Google boot.

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2 points

Some torrent sites have been ordered to be entirely blocked in some countries so they probably have to check for them to comply with local laws.

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These blocks are usually the job of the ISP’s in the country, mostly via DNS.

I don’t think a simple “collection” of URLs would ever fall under any of that.

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Eh… the ultimate question, what if it’s a collection of CSAM links?

Some moderation is fine, especially when it can be shared pretty easily. This isn’t private bookmarks, it’s “private” bookmark collections.

Edit: For those downvoting, this is the same concept as a private Reddit/facebook community. Just because it’s “invite only” doesn’t mean it’s free from following the rules of the whole site.

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53 points

CSAM is never an excuse to violate everyone’s privacy.

I hate seeing people implying that it is. It’s no better then Patriot Act B.s that took away privacy in the name of catching terrorists.

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4 points

Words used to have meaning, you know. Like, for example, the word “private”.

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56 points

I’m getting really sick at the amount of misinformation that gets spread here. There’s plenty of stuff to hate Google without making shit up, and resorting to misleading titles.

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17 points

Wtf is a collections?

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Beats me, I only use chrome if firefox cannot display the site correctly. And it’s a case to case basis at that, it has to be that I really really need to access that site.

Also i rarely use the Google apps that came with my phone. The most probably used one is Maps.

Edit : so yeah, I forgot. I’m on Android. There’s that, no escaping from them on my part. I can’t be bothered with using and installing my own phone OS.

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I’m with you. I’ve disabled some of the more intrusive system apps and Google apps, but there’s no replacement for Maps atm. The best I’ve found is OsmAnd, but it is unusable for me because there’s no way to track movement while observing the convention of north = up.

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3 points

Basically the Google equivalent of Pocket Reader; saves a whole bunch of links from Google News/Articles for you, Google search, and general web links. It’s not the same as your Chrome bookmarks (though at one point they were considering merging them until everyone hated it).

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Ok, I just checked. My collections consist almost entirely of saved maps locations of which restaurants and tourist places I want to visit. Interesting.

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13 points

Crazy that I had to scroll past 9 other comments to reach this one. Maybe I oughta start sorting comments by top.

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13 points

Upvote this post to stop spreading misinformation please

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I think you need to boost, not upvote. But I could be wrong.

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8 points

As far as I’m aware boosting is only a kbin thing. I haven’t seen it in any Lemmy client.

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5 points

My bookmarks can also be shared with the public though

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3 points

I’m not aware of a way of making your bookmarks public through chrome.

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3 points

Aww man, I was hoping google was gonna clean my bookmark up for me.

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2 points

Anything on my computer can be shared with the public as well.

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1 point

You can access through google.com/save

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0 points

That’s not a function of chrome though, I can do that on any browser.

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1 point

Thats’s what I meant by posting the link, you can access it anywhere.

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192 points

Get. Away. From. Google.

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66 points

It’s really that simple for much of their products. I really don’t understand why people still insist on using chrome, in particular. Google is a horrible company that would literally sell you into slavery if it was legal and they thought it’d boost their ad business somehow.

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Part of the problem is that Google has an entire ecosystem that is ridiculously useful and is designed to hook people and keep them around. And once they’re hooked it’s really hard to move away from, even if it’s in their best interest.

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Unfortunately, parts of that ecosystem start deteriorating as they slowly abandon the product, until it reaches a point of being borderline useless. Then, they just deactivate it with little to no warning. Sometimes they just shut things down even if they’re popular (such as Google Poly).

For example, their line of home security cameras are getting worse in quality and usefulness. I feel like it’s only a matter of time until the Nest service shuts down.

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16 points

Everyone says Apple’s walled garden is a problem.

Google built something far more insidious. higher walls but glass, no garden just a swamp of ads.

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0 points

Meth is useful for keeping me awake but I still don’t use it

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150 points

Google keeps taking L’s and firefox keeps taking W’s. If they keep going maybe firefox will be most used browser again

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21 points

How to make people care, though

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19 points

A few days ago, a friend asked me what browser I was using, a question he asked me in a genuine manner of getting my opinion. When I asnwered that I was using Firefox, he - again, what seemed to be genuine - wanted to know why. Knowing that he likes to use adblockers, I then told him about Google’s recent attempts of attacking an open web, specificly mentioning ManifestV3 and WEI API and how they are a potential threat to his use of adblockers.

“Well, I use ublock origin on chrome and it still works, so I’ll keep using that.”

Apparently, I am not convincing enough.

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Unless they sort out their funding (find someone that is not Google for majority of their money), people shouldn’t care.

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16 points

I don’t understand. You think people shouldn’t care about privacy? You think people shouldn’t care about one or two massive corporations having complete control over the internet?

Explain.

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12 points

I hate that I have to keep chrome on my machine because some sites I visit don’t work well, or at all, on Firefox.

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I’ve heard a lot of people mention this recently and I must live a charmed life because I’ve never had this happen. There was I think maybe, once where I was having a problem with a site and it said that I needed to use a browser like chrome so I begrudgingly did and it still didn’t work so I don’t count that as an example and other than that, I’ve just never seen it. In fact I’m pretty sure it’s not since about 2001 that I’ve seen any website give me shit with only working on certain browsers and that was sites designed to work on IE6 or something.

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Just had it happen yesterday with the the students loan simulator. It wouldn’t work on Firefox and kept getting hung and freezing. Opened it in chrome and it worked perfectly first time.

It’s not common, but enough that I keep chrome installed for now.

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When someone sends me links to instagram on my phone, firefox mobile can’t play the thing, I’m forced to open the link in chrome to watch the video. There are lots and lots of websites and webapps that don’t work or barely open on firefox. I’m forced to regularly open every week a few links on chrome/chromium on my computer as well. Although the amount as reduced a lot, some years ago it was worse.

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I’ve used several sites that just won’t scroll in Firefox. Coursera is awful for this and a lot of job sites seem to use the same library because they have the exact same issue

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8 points

The most annoying thing is the website that insist on displaying a banner everytime you visit to tell you that it won’t work on Firefox. And then it works perfectly fine

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6 points

Brave or ungoogled chromium are other options

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5 points

both are still just chromium and as such still subject to google’s bullshittery like amp, manifest v3 and web integrity

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-6 points

Use brave

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19 points

That’s just chrome with a hat on and does nothing to help reduce the encroachment of Google as the internet’s sole provider

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It’s still chromium based, which I’m trying to get away from as much as possible.

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and here i am stuck using chrome, firefox doesn’t install properly. i’ve tried a bunch of times. i have a chromebook.

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11 points

Do you need ChromeOS? If not i suggest installing linux.

Ngl seems sus that firefox won’t install in ChromeOS

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6 points

This was suspicious back when IE became incorporated to File Explorer circa Windows 98.

Now it’s just business.

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2 points

i tried installing linux but i don’t have enough memory for it. my storage is small (32 gigs).

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3 points

Sounds like an anti trust lawsuit waiting to happen tbh

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0 points

It’s in the name lol

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134 points

firefox doesn’t do this

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32 points

Neither does NextCloud. Self hosted bookmarks have been great.

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I see NextCloud being talked about everywhere. I checked their website but still can’t figure out a use case for personnal use.

What do you use it for?

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It’s basically Google drive or Dropbox but hosted yourself on your own server. It’s an effort to set up and maintain but means it’s entirely in your control.

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It’s a file sync platform. Say you have files you want to access from your desktop, you install next cloud and place the files there. They sync up with the next cloud server, presumably your NAS.

Now let’s say you want to access those files from another machine. It could be a laptop, an Android phone, your friends, whatever. You just need to install the client and login, and there your files are, ready to sync to the new device.

Great use case would be syncing your computers user folders, such as my documents, desktop, etc. If you have to wipe your computer and start over, at least those items are preserved and easy to restore.

Otherwise sharing files with other machines in general is the main use.

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I use it as a backup location for pictures and videos I make with my phone and for bookmark storage. But you can use it to fully replace cloud services like OneDrive, GCloud or iCloud.

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5 points

Is nextcloud the same as syncthing?

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Syncthing just… syncs things. Say you have a folder that you want to automatically get synced between devices, syncthing is exactly for this.

If you want something like Google Drive, you can run Nextcloud, which is like a self hosted Google Drive, but more powerful. You upload files, which get saved to the server, not just synced between devices. Then you can also sync them, sync calendars, news (RSS feeds), edit documents in it (assuming you install the correct extension), and a lot more things.

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16 points

Neither does Chrome

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1 point

Either does Chrome probably. This is probably fake

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-5 points

For now. All it takes is a single change in leadership.

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Nah, the CEO reports to the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, so just swapping the CEO will not impact their overall goals.

Besides, Firefox end-to-end-encrypts synced data. They’d have to rip out a ton of solid engineering to know what you bookmark.

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Are you fucking shitting me rn? I am sick of how lame this dystopian future is. Where are my neon lights and grungy underground bars? All we get in this timeline are takedown notices, corporate overreach, disappearing content and DMCA strikes.

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TBF in your grungy cyberverse the corporatocracy would simply try to kill you or turn you into a vegetable instead of sending you a DMCA violation notice by email.

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Well they do exist you just have to look for them

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4 points

Until you find out that everything is so expensive there too you’d need a corpo job’s salary just to pay for cover.

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5 points

And Xs. Xs everywhere.

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