Canada has been left out of a recent expansion of Google’s artificial intelligence-powered chatbot known as Bard as the big tech giant continues its fight with the federal government over the Online News Act.

8 points

Why would anyone give a shit whether Canada gets included in Google’s ai? They just foist this new shit that is effectively useless to the average person other than making shitty “art” and cheating on essay writing. They use it however they want while skirting copyright laws and trawling any data they can get their hands on.

Does anybody really think that ai under google is doing anything other than data-mining to sell advertising? Ai in it’s current form isn’t helping anyone except corporations and the billionaire class and almost everyone would be better off without it.

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Not to rain on that parade, but there are some pretty inovative companies using AI for the betterment of society as a whole. What we all hear and see in the media is really stupid corporate types of AI use, which ultimately will fail because AI lacks one thing we all possess, and that is feeling. AI lacks the ability to insightfully mix in feeling to convey the output.

Where it’s great is where it’s all used for calculations similar to how super computers were used.

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Raw calculations are not AI. The whole premise is that it will be able to understand/emulate human emotion. Else it’s just like the algorithms we’ve been developing since who knows how long.

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AI is data scraping from a landfill of the internet. The only difference is that it’s a gonewild version of it. I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.

Tell me how it needs to be said for someone to feel like it’s a human empathetic response but it comes from AI. We aren’t there. And as it progresses we will never be.

I’ll bet my last dollar that this AI movement for replacing people and jobs is nothing more than the same we have seen in the past with self checkouts, speech to text and the likes of that. It will be uses in areas where data is finite, but human subjective is a different beast.

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Man, whatever. Fuck big corporations anyway.

Google “do no evil” my ass. Lately I’ve become very tired of all these tech companies who think they control the internet. That’s not how internet works. I think they forgot how it really works.

And this AI shit? It’s kind of disappointing. And the reason for that is because of how corporations are trying to exploit it to maximise their profits just like everything/everybody else.

Technology in general, including AI, was supposed to make our lives easier. Make us need to work less to produce just as much or more. The goal was to have a utopia where nobody would have to work anymore and technology would take care of everything for us. But NOOOOOOO. We’re still working harder than ever just trying to get by, and if we can be replace by technology, then too fucking bad. You end up poor, homeless and you’re told by the same wealthy people who fired you and who are benefiting from technology to “pick yourself up by your bootstraps”.

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Barred from Bard!

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Don’t care. Google is also being a baby and blocking Canadians from Canadian news.

Perhaps we should all move away from Google? They clearly can’t be trusted when their response to pay Canadian journalists for rehosting their content is “nah, we instead are going to block Canadian news”.

I don’t think it’s unfair to pay someone when you’re rehosting their stuff or driving away clicks by giving an article summary. Especially when there’s no Google without links. Just like Reddit doesn’t work without users submitting content. Not to mention it’s bold to play this game when there are plenty of Google alternatives now.

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“Reposting” as in linking to their content? Most other companies pay Google for that service.

How are those companies going to drive views to their site? Do you think Microsoft and Meta are going to play ball? They aren’t. Do you expect Lemmy instances to pay whenever someone uploads a Canadian news article?

Our country is a literal South Park meme right now. We’re just waiting on the bubble gum and Bennigans coupons.

This is borderline fascist legislation. Restricting the flow of information on the internet so that Canadians are forced to turn to traditional mainstream media for their news. It was never about money.

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This is borderline fascist legislation.

No it’s not. It’s dumb, sure; but it’s not fascism.

What’s your goal to preserve the 4th Estate?

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Preserve the 4th estate? They’re probably waiting for an invite to the 5th column.

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“Reposting” as in linking to their content? Most other companies pay Google for that service.

Google has apps that rehost content instead of linking to it. Also, many people only view the headline or the brief description, driving views away completely.

How are those companies going to drive views to their site? Do you think Microsoft and Meta are going to play ball? They aren’t. Do you expect Lemmy instances to pay whenever someone uploads a Canadian news article?

Like I said, search engines rely on content to work. You can already request your website be removed from Google, and prevent it from ever being crawled again. Imagine if everyone did this, Google would literally be useless. Google needs content to work. Google shows ads in their search engine, so they are getting paid by simply linking to your website.

Who said Meta and Microsoft wont play ball? Who said Lemmy is going to have to, is Lemmy a search engine? You’re losing the point.

Our country is a literal South Park meme right now. We’re just waiting on the bubble gum and Bennigans coupons.

Ya, because people like you are okay with Google censoring and blocking news to Canadians for… some reason? Not sure why.

This is borderline fascist legislation. Restricting the flow of information on the internet so that Canadians are forced to turn to traditional mainstream media for their news. It was never about money.

Oh, there’s the south park coming out. It’s clear you’ve never created content online. What Google is doing is wrong, and Canadian journalists aren’t wrong for wanting to be paid for views that are taken away. It’s quite literally Google that is restricting the flow of information, so not sure why you’re blaming Canada.

All Google needs to do is pay pennies per click, just like they do with everything else. They are being a greedy American company who will slowly learn that they can’t treat the rest of the world like they do Americans. Look how great Google is. https://youtu.be/cA_cJAFF8Ss

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/cA_cJAFF8Ss

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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8 points

If you want to move away from google there are plenty of people on fedi who can help.

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6 points

I switched to duck duck go a year ago and honestly I get my news quicker and more reliably from Lemmy, TikTok, and previously Reddit.

It’s actually scary how much I see from 50 different angles on TikTok before any news outlet even covers it, if even. Saw a stabbing in Toronto from multiple angles a few HOURS before I even seen an article about it.

I know Lemmy hates TikTok, but can’t deny it’s great for being up to date ASAP when it comes to news. At least for right now.

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DDG which uses Bing to power its results will also have to comply by the same law or drop Canadian news results if they don’t want to negotiate and pay.

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7 points

Lucky them.

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