I got Jellyfin up and running, it’s 10/10. I love this thing, and it reinvigorated my love for watching movies. So I decided to tackle all the other services I wanted, starting with Paperless-ngx…

What a nightmare. It doesn’t have a Windows install so I made an Ubuntu VM. Don’t get me started on Ubuntu. I just spent about 12hrs trying to get Portainer to cooperate and had to give up. I tried just installing Paperless the “normal way” and had to give up on that too.

My point: if you’re getting started selfhosting you have to embrace and accept the self-inflicted punishment. Good luck everybody, I don’t know if I can keep choosing to get disappointed.

Edit: good news! Almost everything I wanted to do is covered by Jellyfin which can be done in Windows.

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I know linux isn’t for everyone, but self hosting on windows is self-inflicted punishment. It’s just not the right platform. Sure it’s doable, but it’s death by a thousand papercuts.

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also Ubuntu will add more complexity to things, Debian will cover most of what you need.

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I wish I knew this before I started.

But my headless Ubuntu is working now, so I am not changing it.

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Don’t rush it. You will have plenty of opportunities to change into Debian when your Ubuntu stops working.

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Be me whose server is on Ubuntu 18.04 and needs upgrading to get Bluetooth into home assistant 😭

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I made my jump from Ubuntu Server to Debian when I containerized everything onto a single proxmox machine.

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For what it’s worth, I usually install Ubuntu Server instead of Debian because it comes with a few more things out-of-the-box that I would install anyway. I have several installations of 22.04 that have been upgraded since 16.04 and they work no problem. (I also have a few Debian installations working similarly well.)

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How so?

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Took maybe 5 minutes total to install paperless-ngx in docker on a Debian vm. No hassles, no headaches.

The problem is trying to install tools built for Linux on Windows.

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You’re better than me

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I’ve got Docker up and running, but getting anything to work within Docker or getting a machine to access the services that it says are running is a different story

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TECHNICALLY (yes, I’m fun at parties) you need 3 commands, as you also need to do an “apt update” after adding the repo. But we can chain commands of course. Do chained commands count as one? We could debate that for hours. Like why I prefer vi.

My point? None really, just having fun.

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Windows is just not ready for this stuff. Most of this stuff is built for Linux. Linux is THE server OS. And windows is painful for developers too, so there’s less solutions for it.

You’ll be a lot better off with Linux for self hosting.

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Absolutely do not do this on windows. It makes everything a nightmare. Bare metal install ubuntu server and install docker/portainer. Its 5 copy pasted commands and you never have to look at the terminal ever again if you don’t want to.

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My point: if you’re getting started selfhosting you have to embrace and accept the self-inflicted punishment. Good luck everybody, I don’t know if I can keep choosing to get disappointed.

I would say that your self inflicted punishment is using windows. Switch to debian and thank me in six months

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I respect your opinion, but I’ll pass

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Well then maybe you should also pass on making generalizations about selfhosting?

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What generalization? You mean the widely accepted pain that comes from it?

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To put it another way, you’re having difficulty staying motivated to ride your bicycle with square wheels.

“You should try using round wheels.”

“No.”


Have you considered Docker?

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You must imagine selfhosters happy.

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Nice. Sad, but nice

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I will be one of many saying this: if you want to self-host you need to learn Linux. It can be done, but this is not like taking a pottery class and you don’t really get to show anyone, the only people who will understand are people who are also able to do what you do. It’s rewarding on many levels, but pleasure and sociality are not among those rewards. :>

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