Leading energy companies are intent on pushing the world in the opposite direction, expanding fossil fuel production and insisting that there is no alternative. It is evidence that they are motivated not by record warming, but by record profits, experts say.

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expanding fossil fuel production and insisting that there is no alternative.

No alternative? No fucking alternative? Likeā€¦ Weā€™re talking about extinction level scenarios and theyā€™re like ā€œyeah, okay, weā€™re all going to die, but I donā€™t think your suggested alternatives to that are viableā€

Like, donā€™t they see that their profits ultimately depend on humanity existing to consume their products? What the fuck is wrong with them? Who do they think will bail them out when the planet is too fucking hot to live on?

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They hope or think they will be dead long before that happens and fuck future generations they are sociopaths.

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Companies like Exxon literally buy up green technology that could have huge, net-positive, impacts in the climate resiliency sphere/in combating climate change because they donā€™t want the competition. The sheer audacity of this bald-faced fucking lie. What is the point of money on a dead planet, morons?

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Why are these greener companies selling to them?

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Why are these greener companies selling to them?

Often because they donā€™t have the capital to roll out their technology and need to go to the market for investment.

But then the investment market fucks them.

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Like, donā€™t they see that their profits ultimately depend on humanity existing to consume their products?

Well, thatā€™s a problem for the next quarter. Right now we have to push those sales.

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Snarky, but accurate.

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Profits now think later. Duh

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Problem is the ceos, shareholders are mostly in their 50s so they only have at most 50 years of their lives left. They donā€™t need to care about the future. They donā€™t need to care about warming , heating, burning, as they can turn on their AC and stay comfy. Also Many oil production countries are not the most morally responsible countries.

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Itā€™s also mental illness, they donā€™t need to worry about money either theyā€™re rich enough to live wonderful lives already but they are greed obsessed and their ego can only be fed if theyā€™re destroying the world

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And apparently they donā€™t give a fuck about the world their kids and grandchildren will ave to live in.

Bunch of psychopaths.

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Rich donā€™t give a rats ass about any plebs. They know humanity is doomed. They will live their ā€œbestā€ life possible in resorts or on yachts, etcā€¦until end of times.

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Yeah, theyā€™re not the ones who have it hot. Theyā€™ve got airconditioning in their yachts.

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If all of the oil companies comply, all is gonna be well. If only one of them doesnt, things are gonna end up well as well. If only two dont, its probably still gonna be good. If threeā€¦

They just all wanna be that ā€œone company that doesnt complyā€, so they all dont comply.

There is a known experiment about 100 students being given a choice before a test - choose A and you gain 2 extra points. Choose B and you gain 6 extra points. However, if more than 30% of the students choose B, no one gains anything. From what i checked, in every iteration of this experiment, no one gained anything in the end. Thats just human nature.

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Similarly, the Prisonerā€™s Dilemma.

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Iā€™d go so far as to say if the alternative is extinction, absolutely no action, no matter how drastic and no matter the collateral damage, is unjustified as long as it works.

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Yeah, but I think Iā€™d literally die if I were forced to, ugh!, walk to the nearest fast food restaurant. (Thatā€™s, like, a mile!) How would I order from the drive-thru without a car, huh? Besides, I need the AC because itā€™s so hot out.

(/s, of course)

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Remember, folks, itā€™s only ā€œsocialismā€ when we talk about sharing profits among the people. Sharing blame and responsibility is perfectly okay!

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Man you couldnā€™t of said it any better.

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But you could have

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Yes couldā€™ve. You got me.

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A surprise to no one.

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Iā€™m surprised it took this long

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ā€œThey (Oil companies) have left no doubt that their pledges were deployed for cynical political purposes, only to be ditched when they no longer suited the industryā€™s strategic position,ā€

That strategic position was to avoid being governed, said Timmons Roberts, professor of environment and sociology at Brown University.

ā€œThe climate commitments ā€¦ were almost certainly made to give the impression that they donā€™t need to be regulated because their voluntary pledges are adequate,ā€

You know, Iā€™m kinda tired of every article about oil companies being either something straight out of police reports or just being the same ā€œNo shit, Sherlockā€ about them being evil, lying, manipulative and greedy assholes. Iā€™d love to see them being fined some 50 billion dollars, but I feel theyā€™d manage to overturn that anyway. Justice and police exist to protect property.

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justice and police exist to protect the rich

Ftfy

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media, justice and police exist to protect the rich

FTFTFY

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If they were fined for fifty billions, theyā€™d argue until they settled for two hundred millions and it would be hailed as a leap forward for justice. :-/

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The problem with fining industry is that industry isnā€™t sentient. Itā€™s the C-levels and management types that need to be seriously punished for pursuing profits over human lives. As long as we donā€™t do that, nothing is going to change. If you fine Shell 50 billion dollars, nothing substantial changes for the higher ups. Even if these guys would stop making money all together, it would just mean they would have to stop spending so much god damned money and just live of of the millions theyā€™ve already made.

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I love the movie V for Vendetta.

Just throwing that out there.

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