Pretty sure the data they’ll be getting will be payment enough.
They getting ALL the data
What data? The data that the user affirmatively agrees to send them that is anonymized? That data?
The point is that they can use that data for further training. They want to build a monopoly like Google is for search.
Like Google did with user queries and crawling data. I’m just saying everyone is happily giving these companies data. You are welcome to not use the GPT functionality just like you are welcome to use DuckDuckGo. I’m not getting the hostility to Apple. Microsoft on the other hand…
They want to build a monopoly like Google is for search.
There’s Bing, and some others. I’m using Kagi. You can pretty much drop one in for another.
Google has a significant amount of marketshare, but it doesn’t really have the ability to determine the terms on which a consumer can get access to search services, which is what lets a monopoly be a monopoly.
They’ve got a monopoly over providing some services to Android users, maybe.
I’m sure you understand this, but anonymized data doesn’t mean it can’t be deanonymized. Given the right kind of data, or enough context they can figure out who you are fairly quickly.
Ex: You could “Anonymize” gps traces, but it would still show the house you live at and where you work unless you strip out a lot of the info.
http://androidpolice.com/strava-heatmaps-location-identity-doxxing-problem/
Now with LLMs, sure, you could “anonymize” which user said or asked for what… but if something identifying is sent in the request itself, it won’t be hard to deanonymize that data.
So you would rather submit your non-anonymized data? Because those bastards will find a way to unanonimize it. Is Apple doing the right thing or not?
If you look at the announcement, they’re pretty damn boxed in. They can’t scrap the local device, or iCloud. Open AI only gets queries that the dumber Apple models thinks would be better served by OpenAI. And each of those queries is prompted with a dialog that says “Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that? Cancel / Use ChatGPT”
That said, on stage, Apple briefly mentioned that ChatGPT plus users would have more functionality. I’ll bet money that’s the real play. LLM model subscriptions in the App Store. Apple loves that sweet sweet AppStore and subscription money.
Question is, do they take a cut like with Spotify, or is basic, free, GPT 4 access payment enough?
So Apple is paying them in exposure? First time I’ve ever seen that where it might actually be worth something.
It’s worth more, more often than you think, it’s just hawked by random “influencers” with a paltry 50k followers or some shit. That kind of exposure is worthless.
I’ve heard from photographers and artists before that they will consider exposure offers, but only if you have an actual status. Like a major brand or near-celebrity or a top 50 social media “influencer” with millions upon millions of followers.
And they usually want a contract, i.e. you have to pin our work for X days and you have to tag us etc.
No, the payment is apple users’ data, is me. If I can’t turn it off completely, I won’t update the OS.
Chill and do some reading. It’s not only opt-in but can be disabled at any time, and it’s opt-in per request. It’ll tell you before anything goes to ChatGPT and even then it’s anonymized.
It is not absolutely safe and anonymous. If I can’t just turn it off completely, it’s unacceptable for me.
How will this be financially viable for OpenAI? It costs lots of money to run this crap
