cross-posted from: https://monero.town/post/431688

Does anyone got any television recommendations for dumb tv’s or other words none smart tv’s? Or even a tv that is smart but the software is open sourced making it privacy friendly?

25 points

Any TV is a dumb TV if you take it offline :)

But yes I’m also interested in what other people have afound about ths.

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7 points

This used to feel true until Amazon Sidewalk happened.

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6 points

Amazon Sidewalk

Does Samsung use that? What about picking brands that don’t use it? Remove antennas from things?

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Sidewalk is (to my knowledge) only used by Amazon devices.

My point was more that Amazon advertised a system where if you didn’t have internet, don’t worry, you can use a neighbours. The current system is all opt in. The issue is that these major companies have never minded hiding other technology or its uses from the end user. We believe we can just block the device from the internet, but it is entirely possible that some of the TV’s of today have similar systems to sidewalk (or even just cell connectivity) built right in.

Let’s not forget when Google nest security systems sold in 2017 received an OTA update (in 2019) to be able to use voice commands (oops, did we not mention there were microphones in the device you bought?)

I’m not saying everyone needs to slap a tinfoil hat on. I’m just saying that while I also block these devices from the internet, it really feels like any day now things will become more difficult than that (possibly in devices we already own)

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3 points

not entirely accurate

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Please elaborate…

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Whether they’re online or not, if they’re preloaded with crapware they’re preloaded with crapware, and they’re still technically “smart”. If you’re trying to avoid dealing with those smart UIs, then they’re still a problem.

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a regular tv, none smart. That just displays images via a hdmi

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Depending on what you’re looking for, you might just want a computer monitor. Those are essentially “dumb TVs” without Internet connectivity or an operating system, and they have HDMI connections, so there you go.

You can also look into commercial TVs, although more and more of those are “smart” these days. Even if they’re smart, and they tend to be a bit more pricy, they aren’t preloaded with crapware and usually have excellent warranties. So that’s another option.

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You are unlikely to find a new non-smart TV… the TV manufacturers get kickbacks from the streaming services for bundling their apps.

If you did find one, it would be more expensive than the dumb TV because you don’t have a bunch of streaming services subsidizing the price of the TV for you.

A computer monitor may work for you, or just buy a smart TV and never connect it to a network. You should be able to set it to automatically start up on the last-used input so you never see the built-in UI.

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10 points

we need to open source tvs, just outsource 4k panels from lg or somewhere else

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With sidewalk, weave, and other networks similar popping up, how long until TVs send telemetry through your neighbors Ring doorbell, whether you hook them up to the Internet or not? Or does this happen already?

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4 points

Snip snip. No antenna, no network.

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There is commercial TV/Monitor but last I checked, a 70" SHARP was like $4000.

Or do as I did, I bought a smart TV, did the setup (it needs internet at first to update firmware) then went into the settings to forget network info, and that’s it. The TV is a big monitor used with HDMI for a chromecast or BD player.

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You can not accept the smart features and it’ll be a dumb tv. This is how iuser my Sony. Never accept the agreements or policies.

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