This is pure genocide apology. Even if it were true that the hostages were held by civilians, the 200+ Palestinians killed were not all holding the hostages. The 600+ injured were not holding the hostages. What a disgusting article. So because a few people “deserved it” we can massacre civilians. Fuck off
Ah yes, newsweek. Truly a paragon of human rights advocacy.
(Edit: There used to be a comment here where I was trying to say the blaming the Palestinians for fighting back, on any level, is unreasonable.)
(What I actually wound up saying was victim blaming in a grossly unfair fashion. I’m taking it down. The reply down further below where I try to explain it a little bit better, I’m leaving up, although that one also may still be unfair.)
Then you are a coward and a piece of shit of the absolute highest order
I think that’s pretty easy for you to say from the outside looking in.
I’m not saying anything against someone who for one reason or another (like that they are 2 years old or something) isn’t taking part in fighting, or just wants to live and not to be a part of the killing on either side.
I’m saying that if you don’t “align” yourself mentally against the invaders while they’re killing your family and blowing up your country, then yes, I think you’re a piece of shit. Meaning, it makes no sense to punish ordinary Palestinians or treat it as anything wrong with them if they are “aligned” against the Israelis or willing to take part in anti Israeli activities, no matter who they are. That may make them “not civilians” legally, but to remain a fully unaligned-with-the-conflict civilian, all the way up until your house is the one getting blown up and you and your family are the dead ones, is unequivocally wrong. In my opinion, and maybe I have no right to say that. You’re right that I’m just saying it from the outside without the slightest idea of the reality of what I’m talking about.
The solution is to stop the Israelis from brutalizing Palestine in a way that anyone with a shred of human spirit would try to resist against. The solution is not to decide that now that they’ve done that, any Palestinian who doesn’t like it isn’t a civilian anymore, so it’s okay to kill them too.
(And if someone in Palestine doesn’t care and just wants to get away and be safe, then that is fine. Not saying anything against that. And if they want to work for peace, and that’s their resistance, then great. That is much better. But I’m saying you can’t blame someone for fighting back in a situation this desperate and unfair.)
Sure, let’s do start using it correctly. I’ll go first:
Israel is engaged in mass murder of Palestinian Civilians.
80% of Hamas has been orphaned by Israel. Israel has destroyed nearly all the schools. Israel has been starving the Gazans for decades
Israel tries Palestinian children in military court for decades, without parental or legal representation.
But sure buddy go off on your propaganda
Are you saying that they are not using child soldiers? It seems to me like you’re just making excuses for them using child soldiers.
That’s a good question, how many does it take for it to be considered a problem?
Tsk, tsk, tsk. You didn’t use “Palestinian” or “civilian” in that sentence. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Religion can fuck right off in this discussion. It’s definitely a core reasons this war is happening in the first place.
Got it, so that makes it alright to kill 30,000 civilians who aren’t child soldiers.
I’m glad you reset my moral compass.
How exactly do you fight a terrorist organization who uses children as both soldiers and human shields without any sort of civilian casualties?
You realize this style of warfare that Hamas has chosen is specifically designed to lead to civilian deaths right?
They could all line up on an open area and fight Israel soldier to soldier, but they choose not to.
Starving children, bombed hospitals and schools, whole neighborhoods reduced to rubble… Yeah let’s worry about properly defining “civilian”.
