Start building #community and #mutualaid systems now. It’s about to get ugly out there.

#election2024 #2024election #immigration #immigrants #PresidentialElection2024 #DonaldTrump #JoeBiden

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5. If the 2024 presidential election were being held today between Joe Biden, the Democrat, and Donald Trump, the Republican, who would you vote for?

Among likely voters, including those leaning toward Biden or Trump

Joe Biden . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49%

Donald Trump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50%

Someone else/third party . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1%

Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0%

The 2-party state lives on.

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How can the support for Not Sure be so low? He’s the smartest man to exist, and he solved the water crisis!

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I’d have voted Third Party. Shame they’re Someone Else’s VP

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We should be building those systems regardless. Also, dont accept defeat so easily. Find the moderates and fence sitters in your area. Talk to them. Show them the expert opinions, how closely Trump is mimicking dictator rhetoric and behavior. We beat him once, and we can do it again. But not if we just let the Democrats do their thing. We have to push this ourselves to the hand sitters. Also, if you can get even 1 no vote to change to Biden thats a victory.

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Reminds me of “The Persuaders.” Great book. This comes from a Guardian review on it:

By far the most fascinating and potentially useful case study is that of Anat Shenker-Osorio, the communications strategist for progressive causes, whose tactics, pegged to the data, have exposed a lot of shortfalls in leftwing political campaigning. Shenker-Osorio points out that when people get frightened, they skew right; when they feel compassion and common cause with their fellow humans, they skew left.

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Notably, the poll found that mass deportation was popular with Hispanics, with 53 percent saying they would favor such a program and 47 percent saying they would oppose it. White people were more supportive of mass deportations, with 67 percent saying they would back the program, and 33 percent saying they would oppose it. Among Black people, it was 47 percent in favor and 53 percent opposed.

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You know what, do it. Let’s create a fucken food crisis out of bigotry and racism. Who the hell do they think works all the farms here? Immigrants are the life blood of agriculture

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That may in part be an intended consequence. A permanent underclass benefits all mainstream politics in the US.

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at least their countries of origin start to get richer.

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Anglo farm workers go on strike, and the replacements have been deported.

They send in the police.

Some Anglo workers have their own guns.

Meanwhile oranges are apparently cheaper in Japan, Canada, UK, Switzerland, and Russia than in the US.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/prices_by_country.jsp?itemId=111

Well done, bigots—enjoy you’re even higher food prices—and paying Gen As even more to get your grass cut.

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Conservatives really hate all other people, even the people they should trust.

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American politics have become a death cult. Millennialism had a much deeper impact on this country than I recognized at the time.

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Millennialism? I don’t think I’ve ever seen this mentioned before, can you explain?

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Also called Millenarianism, it refers to the belief that a major change/end of an age/apocalypse is inbound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism

A lot of folks felt this way when the year 1999 rolled around and the “new millennium” began. For some it only got worse after September 11th 2001.

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Gotta pull up those ladders behind you. It’s not like those immigrants could have anything in common with your family, that also immigrated to the US with very little.

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“Got mine!” it’s the American Way

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Well…the boomer way at least.

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Fuckin colonizers

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