Looks like a new model for the Fairphone has been announced! What do you think about it?

Personally I love the fairphone project but after having tried GrapheneOS on my Pixel 6a it would be hard to move to a different OS

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GSMarena reports displayport support in the USB.

Can anyone confirm this? The site doesn’t mention it and it’s a game changing feature imo.

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Kudos on Fairphone for offering 8 years of software updates.

As an owner of FP4, my biggest gripes with the FP4 are the software updates. Bugs keep languishing for months before they are acknowledged and then months pass before the bugs are fixed. Three annoying issues with my FP4 that I deal with on a daily basis:

  • Screen dimming bug. First reported in Feb and the earliest possible fix is in October. My phone is useless when I’m out and about and the level of urgency implied by FP4 for this issue baffles me.
  • NFC stops working randomly
  • 5 GHz hotspot was broken for months and only fixed recently

I don’t care much about Android 13 as long as I get timely security patches. What I want is a bug free experience and that’s something FP4 fails to deliver.

An annoying hardware decision is the SIM card can’t be hot swapped. Not sure why this wasn’t addressed with FP5.

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No headphone jack? Wtf?! Pass!

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No headphone jack. I really wish they’d bring that back.

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The Fairphone is always just such an odd decision for me. On one hand, I would love to have a phone with long support and swappable parts. On the other hand, I hear so many complaints about the software and wait for major version updates that I am not enterily sure if it really is a good buy.

The price is pretty okay, a bit less than 100€ per expected usable year. This is in line with other manufacturers. Also, the biggest bull of the expenses probably comes from the way the manufacturing and materials are checked.

Is there any sense in installing a custom ROM on the phone to get rid of the software issues?

Or maybe there will be less issues this time? From what I heard some of the problems where caused by Qualcomms support windows being closed and the company actually updating everything themself. Which might be solved by using a SoC with somewhat decent support now.

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Is there any sense in installing a custom ROM on the phone to get rid of the software issues?

Custom ROM will help with some issues, but not all. If the issue is in a proprietary blob, like the random screen dimming issue that’s plagued FP4 for months now, you’d still be stuck with the issue.

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the biggest bull of the expenses probably comes from the way the manufacturing and materials are checked.

Could you expand on this? I am unfamiliar with Fairphone’s methods for determining and checking sources for materials and manufacturing. Is it flawed?

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As far as I know, Fairphone uses “conflict free” materials. This is more expensive and harder to get than just searching for the cheapest seller of any material (e.g. lithium) and just going with them. In theory this should help against child or prison labor.

Additionally, they aim to pay everyone in the chain a living wage. Which is also more expensive than just using foxxcon to produce as cheap as possible and telling them to “just add more suicide prevention nets”.

This is a good thing, but makes cost go up quite a bit I would assume. Additionally, the SoC is probably more expensive than the Snapdragon equivalent, as it is build “for industrial uses”, which normally commands a premium.

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