The Muslim call to prayer will ring out more freely in New York City under guidelines announced Tuesday by Mayor Eric Adams, which he said should foster a spirit of inclusivity.
Under the new rules, Adams said, mosques will not need a special permit to publicly broadcast the Islamic call to prayer, or adhan, on Fridays and at sundown during the holy month of Ramadan. Friday is the traditional Islamic holy day, and Muslims break their fast at sunset during Ramadan.
The police department’s community affairs bureau will work with mosques to communicate the new guidelines and ensure that devices used to broadcast the adhan are set to appropriate decibel levels, Adams said. Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
I find the call to prayer more offensive than inclusive
Having lived in Bedstuy where a loud Muslim prayer happens every Friday morning, it’s annoying as fuck and should not be exempted from ordinary noise ordinances.
I lived right next to a Mosque in Kensington (that opened up without a proper permit in a residential zone a year after I purchased my property). They used to broadcast their prayers at ungodly volume. It was loud as hell, would cut through my headphones and ruin any ability I had to do anything, even think straight. I made numerous noise complaints but nothing was ever done by the NYPD. Got so bad that I finally sold the place and moved somewhere dominated by orthodox Jewry just because I knew they’d serve as a bulwark against me ever having to hear any prayers again.
I’m sure that the people who think this is a good idea view it as a simple matter of religious freedom. It is not. My experience was one of having someone else’s religion thrust upon me. Church bells are annoying and loud, but they do not contain actual religiosity. I was always taught that my rights ended when I infringe upon someone else’s rights. Broadcasting prayers so loud it can be heard above the ambient noise in NYC is trampling on my rights to exist free of religion.
Believe whatever you want, but keep it to yourself. I feel awful for everyone who lives near a mosque in NYC.
My experience was one of having someone else’s religion thrust upon me.
That’s exactly what this is. If someone is part of the religion, they either already know what time it is or have set up their own alarm to notify them. The only reason to blast this across the neighbourhood is to force everyone to hear it.
Freedom of religion is freedom from religion.
Have you not heard the shabbat siren in Brooklyn ran by orthodox Jews and also run every Friday? They are literal air raid sirens in Williamsburg. https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2014/brooklyns-weekly-shabbos-air-raid-siren
Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level
10db may not sound like much but a sound 10db louder sounds twice as loud to the human ear.
That doesn’t put it in perspective at all. Both of those things are very loud. Ambient noise in NYC is kind of medium to low, depending on time of day and exact location. What does 10 dB above the ambient noise at 4:30 AM sound like? The double of breathing is leaves rustling.
I wonder if this could be solved by Church of Satan setting up and blasting Slayer or some death metal at 10db above ambient. Seems only fair.
The Satanic Temple. They’re the awesome activists. The Church of Satan are a bunch of Ayn Rand-loving assholes who do a bunch of stupid woo-woo rituals and try to justify hedonism.
I’m picturing some angry dude in an apartment near this place just blasting death metal out a, window to drown the prayer out.
It’s a start.
When I was in college there was a culture of blasting out music from the windows of the dorms.
Mostly hip hop and pop, not really my genres at the time (though I got into some niche hip hop years later)
At the time, a metal guitarist had recently died violently. They were a local band with a global reach, well local to me, about 2 hours from campus.
That day everyone knew their music, lol. Had my “metal” friends come up with speakers and any other audio gear they could muster.
In my defense, unlike other noise polluters, I observed quiet hours.
The Islamic call to prayer happens before sunrise, just after noon, late afternoon, just after sunset, and night time.
I think you’re going to have a fuck load of complaining when that bad boy goes off at 4:30 am. I used to live in Mosul and you could hear the imams all across the city. It’s like a giant alarm clock.
