I support independent creators of all kinds.

I’m in therapy as well.

Have you covered CBT or Dialectical Behavioral Therapy? If so and those thing didn’t work to your satisfaction, have you tried EMDR?

I occasionally pull up CBT worksheets online, they’re easy to look for, when I’m having intrusive thoughts. I find them helpful with changing my point of view, particularly the ones with visualization. I recommend this as a low-barrier way for anyone to deal with spiraling.

DBT programs are helpful for people with BPD. They’re long term so you can build healthier thought patterns over a period of time. Since it takes a while to build habits. If you have a doctor or therapist already, or a local mental health initiative, they might have programs available to join. Where I live they’re free.

EMDR in therapy was very effective for me in reworking deep-rooted memories of shame and self-hate. Unfortunately that requires having a therapist you already have a good relationship with, and you might have to pay.

What in the before jesus is this?

I don’t read comments often enough to know what’s normal. The only good reason I can think of is anti-bot/anti-spam measures and even then it’s a bit strange. How do you know they were purged?

You know what? Even with missing the content, I think your statement is fair. I’ve got a sore spot for using fallacies and disagree with your arguments against the reasons for a vegan diet, but you seem genuine in your motives. I apologize for calling you a nugget head.

Oops you’re right. I did not correctly check the sub. I stand by the rest. Arguing logical fallacies against someone’s diet choices is a dick move and is still arguing against veganism.

I can’t verify if they were telling people to kill themselves or what that has to do with their reasons for eating plants. If I made death threats online, which no one should do and is a faux pas, I should still be able to use factory farming as a reason for avoiding meat.

Again, don’t think it’s ban worthy. I’m in the peanut gallery over here just having a good time.

What a great ride. I started this thread thinking Objection was being a dick, but OP bringing up logical fallacies in an internet argument is usually a red flag signalling a nugget head.

Jumping into a vegan space to argue someone isn’t being vegan for the right reasons? While I don’t think it’s permanent-ban worthy it’s annoying as fuck.

I’m not even vegan and that looked like some bullshit to me.

Please don’t die from this advice.

First: Yes, best before dates are sometimes arbitrary depending on the product and where you live. However, basically anything with a package sold commercially has been tested for taste/feel/look over time to determine when quality degrades. If you make cookies you don’t want people only buying up 1+ yr old boxes and thinking your cookies are just supposed to taste like solidified disks of keyboard powder. Having a best before date tells people when your product tastes as intended and when it’s only worth buying from the discount bin.

It’s fair to say sometimes marketing bullshit influences that date.

Second: Expiry dates are a real thing, at least where I’m from. Fridge/freezer temperatures are meant to be within specific ranges and there are food safety regulations around how long certains items can be outside of those ranges - like for transport or during prep.

Expiry dates are based on testing the development of bacteria colonies/degradation of the ingredients in an average of settings one would expect those products to go through.

Just because something says it’s expired doesn’t necessarily mean it’s unsafe, though. Except: in a commercial kitchen it is illegal to sell expired ingredients because of the testing that goes into determining that date.

I’ve worked as a chef, have taken multiple food safety courses, had good relationships with food inspectors. And I’ve worked in a production kitchen where the products were sent to testing facilities for determining the dates we put on the labels.

Depression?

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