No big business utilities? PG&E is worth $35 billion. Duke Energy is close to $70 billion. The list goes on. These are fortune 500 companies that employ small towns worth of people.

Utilities are damn near as big as it gets.

You’re right that most utility markets are regulated, but it is typically handled at a state level, not local. In most of the US, municipal governments are not the provider of electric and gas utilities, although there are certainly many exceptions. Additionally, when those small local utilities are given a service territory they are often just reselling energy purchased from a large utility.

I’ve worked for a large utility for the last decade. We’re a business just like McDonalds. We take in raw materials and convert them to a product that our customers want to buy. We try to attract new customers through advertising and good service. We lobby the politicians that regulate our market. We do all those business things, and we do it in the name of profit.

There are a lot of small co-op utilities that don’t work quite the same way. If large utilities were banks, those little co-ops would be credit unions. That type of utility is awesome because they are able to be more customer focused. Unfortunately most of them lose out on economies of scale, so their customers may not actually see any savings in comparison to the big guys.

If you still don’t believe utilities are big business, look at NextEra Energy. They’re worth about $150 billion, give or take a couple billion. That means they have a higher valuation than the combined worth of Darden Restaurants (Olive Garden, Longhorn, etc), Dominos, Wendy’s, Papa John’s, Chipotle, Burger King, and the Yum Brands (KFC, Pizza Hut, etc).

These large utilities aren’t just bigger business than most restaurants. They’re an order of magnitude larger.

This is awesome! I might have to dive back in.

You should get on discord! It’s like the instant messenger of our youth but with more features. You can find a discord for every hobby.

Yes, I would say it generally costs more. But it doesn’t have to.

For example, ultralight tents are expensive, so I embraced tarp life. My tarp and bivy are lighter than most UL tents and cost hundreds of dollars less.

My individual pieces of clothing cost more, but adopting an ultralight approach means I don’t carry needless extras, so I don’t buy as many clothes in the first place.

UL stoves can cost a lot, but the BRS stove or an alcohol stove are cheap and weigh less. Eating cold food is even lighter.

You get the idea. It costs exactly what you spend on it. It can be done affordabley if you are strict about what you are carrying and strategic with purchases. Leaving unneeded items at home will have a bigger impact on your base weight than any $700 tent.

I did at one point. Let me see if I can track it down. Fair warning, part of my UL motivation is saving weight for luxuries like a kindle and deodorant.

We had a baby in March so I haven’t been on a trip since last fall. Hoping to do a few more sections of the MST this September.

Edit: I found my old lighterpack account, but the most recent packing list is from a few years ago. I should probably be responsible and make one for current trips. I’ll send you another reply in a day or two with an update.

In the meantime here’s my lighter pack from a lightweight hammock trip.. I’ve since decided I prefer the ground and switched to a quilt, pad, tarp, and bivy. I traded the pocket rocket for an alcohol stove (safe over here in the super damp southern US). I also cut some unnecessary weight from the FAC, cooking tools, ditty bag, etc.

I found a lot of good resources on the UL hammocking subreddit. It can be a little tough to sort through because a lot of hamockers are not focused on weight.

I would avoid the “cloud” material I bought from dutchware. Mine never broke, but a lot of others have. They revised the weight limit downwards after I had bought mine, and now I don’t trust it. If I could make that choice again I would choose the next level of durability.

You can get a hammock set up to be pretty light, but no matter what you do it will be heavier than an equivalent investment in ground equipment. After trying it for a while I decided I wasn’t really sleeping any better, so I might as well get back on the ground and be lighter. My wife is still team hammock though.

I will say that nothing beats a hammock in the rain. The ground is so wet and cold, but the hammock is cozy.

If you like sarcastic Brits and the Craftsman, please check out Bill Making Stuff.

I got my pocket in the first wave of releases, but I held off on the dock until earlier this year. My dock arrived a few days ago and I love it.

After using modded Gameboys and various emulators, the pocket is my favorite hand held. I still prefer the form factor ofa Gameboy micro, but the pocket’s screen can’t be beat.

The dock is a nice way to top access those same games on a big screen, but I don’t think the pocket is the best option if you only want to play on a tv.

I still owe you a lighterpack and I’ve been slow about getting around to it. I pulled out all my stuff in preparation for an upcoming trip and weighed it.

It’s not down to ultralight weights, but it’s not far off if you drop the luxury items and some extra clothes. I’m debating switching to a smaller pack. I’ve carried all this same kit in a Cotopaxi 20L climbing pack that weighs about 10 oz less. The gorilla is more comfortable though, especially if it’s dry and I have to carry more water.

Here’s the WIP on the current pack. https://lighterpack.com/r/7okvil

Edit: Here’s a version without the unnecessary extras. It comes in at just over 9lbs base weight. Depending on the weather I would need to switch back to a real rain jacket. This is what I carried on a 3 day skateboard trip last year. https://lighterpack.com/r/j7iwjy