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Biden was objectively less coherent than Trump. And I don’t say that to praise Trump, it’s just reality. Also the media did a great job of sane washing Trump, cutting out specific sentences he said, rather than letting voters see the full incoherent rambling. But Trump did a better job of forming sentences, I’m sorry but that’s true. Go back and listen to Biden’s full remarks when he made the garbage comment, somewhere in that word salad it sounded like he was about to refer to his home town as being in Puerto Rico, realizing his mistake he pivoted and just shot out the garbage remark.
On the plus side, voters are going to be treated to 4 years of uninterrupted exposure to Trump’s ramblings as his mind continues to diminish. The media can’t sane wash that.
MAGA-flation. Republican -flation. Trump is a lame duck, but MAGA will survive. Messaging that ties everything that Trump fucksup to him alone gives Republicans in 2 or 4 years room to duck the consequences (I didn’t do it, Trump did it, I don’t agree with everything he did, blah blah blah). We need to make sure to tie everything Trump does to the whole Republican party now, so they all pay the price for letting Trump take over their party and fuck the economy and everything else.
The fight for the midterms starts today. Remember that.
Ah how time sands away the rough edges of our memories.
Bush created an illegal prison to hold “suspected terrorists” indefinitely without charges or trials. Bush had literal CIA black sites around the world for the explicit purpose of evading US law. Bush had a legal memo drafted for the explicit purpose of instituting a torture program. Can I get an Abu Ghraib up in here? Mass surveillance of Americans, Bush invented the Patriot act and fisa warrantless taps! So many chestnuts like “Your either with us or with the terrorists” “See something say something” as an explicit way to turn Americans against each other, to compel loyalty to death leader or else be labeled a terrorist. Speak out against Bush’s lies about the Iraq war, well how about an administration official leaks to the NYT blowing the cover of your spy wife to put her in danger as revenge, and then pardon the fucker who did it? To say nothing about getting Medicare, opposition to lgbtq rights, no child left behind bullshit, voter restrictions, and I can’t just not give a big what’s up to Hurricane Katrina! Fuck the “unitary executive” theory is a Bush era creation. That’s just the stuff I personally remember, without even looking up a greatest hits list of Bush shit.
Oh yeah, Bush wasn’t even elected the first time! The conservative supreme court in a 5-4 opinion installed him!
Trump is the first president not to accept the results of an election, to undermine democracy directly. I’ll give you that, and in some ways he’s a very unique threat in that way. But he is not the first president to stretch presidential authority, to abuse his power, to break democratic norms, to stomp on civil rights, etc. We’re talking here about Bush, but don’t forget Nixon and Reagan also existed!
Yes this is bad, maybe uniquely bad, but one thing we have going for us is Trump and the people around him are highly incompetent. That was not true in the Bush years. We can fight him and we can defeat Trumpism. So long as elections happen, we can stop the worst of Trump. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the country that reelected Bush even after all that shit, turned around 4 years later and elected a progressive (by the days standards) black candidate with the middle name huessain, and voters did it by a landslide. It took a lot of work to get there, but we as a country did it before and can do it again. There is hope.
Yeah his very limited contributions to the campaign sure reminded us all of how great he was as a campaigner. Like when they confined him to a zoom call with supporters and he word saladed his way into calling Trump supporters “garbage”. Biden, a real master of messaging, he surely would have overcome the 15 point deficit he had in the swing states, the 80% plus of all voters saying he was too old to have another term, being 30 points underwater in his approval rating, and inspired the masses with his sharp populist messaging.
Ffs Biden should never have tried to run for reelection.
I’m not going to defend the DNC, and I know the “fight from the inside” line gets eye rolls. But look at what Trump did. He took over the Republican party. He represented what the grassroots activists and voters in Republican primaries wanted. It was ugly and gross, but that’s what they wanted. And Trump transformed the Republican party in his image. Traditional Republicans became refugees, “never trumpers”. The Paul Ryan’s and Elizabeth Cheney’s who were willing to go along, without adopting the new maga Republican line, were forced out. Now the old Reagan, country club, fiscal discipline, free trade Republican party is dead. The survivors are exciled to places like the Bulwark, like it’s Taiwan and they’re just waiting for the opportunity to take their party back, an opportunity that will never come because the grassroots won’t let them.
I’m not saying this is a model. It happened in large part because fox news let Trump run wild because he was good for ratings, and by the time they went to quash him with Megan Kelly as hitman during a Fox News debate, it was too late, the base was with him and it was Kelly who was sacrificed as appeasement. It was overall a hostile takeover of the party based on the force of personality of one person, not a takeover based on differing policy ideas or a general vision for the party and country. I don’t think we can, or should want to, replicate that. But still I think there might be something there, some nugget we can replicate, for the grassroots to force change from the inside.
It’s a whole lot easier to take over a party than to build a new one.
Yeah, I hope that’s not the case but I worry about it. I think the most hopeful take is Trump isn’t running again, he’ll be like 86, so he’s not going to give a shit what comes next. Why bother to use the power of the state to help dipshit Vance? If anything, Vance losing just reinforces how special and unique Trump was, inflates his own ego. In terms of elections, I’m more concerned with the midterms. Trump has an incentive to prevent Congress flipping.
But also remember, W. Bush also had a conservative supreme court willing to let him get away with war crimes. Fuck, he “won” in 2020 only because SCOTUS stepped in to hand him the win. W. Bush was more illegitimate than Trump. But we survived, and we got Obama after. So there’s hope here too.
Progressive spaces do not accommodate those supportive of genocide, even if you try to frame the genocide as “self defence”. The “majority” of Jews you describe are not shut out of progressive spaces, they have chosen genocidal revenge as their policy and have thus turned their back on ideals like protecting the “the least of us”. Remember, it’s not just progressives who are against the genocide supporting zonists, it’s basically the whole world who has rejected you. You are welcome in conservative circles only because Jewish control of Israel is a necessary condition for the Christian cultists doomsday proficiencies. They don’t care about Jews, they dislike Jews generally, they just support Israel because 1) a lot like ethno states and want to replicate Israels model, and 2) Jews need to be there so Christ comes back or whatever.
Jews are more than welcome in progressive spaces, and many are there, just not the ones cheering on the mass murder and starvation of civilians. Maybe take a hard look at yourself and why your on whatever side your on.
The first ballot I was old enough to cast was for John Kerry in 2004. After Bush lied about WMDs and got us into a pointless war, a torture program, mass surveillance of Americans, let alone shit conservative social policies. 4 years of that, and Americans knowingly reelected him by a wider margin than his initial election. This time he won the popular vote, which he didn’t do in his initial election. Any of this sound familiar?
But we survived, and we paid attention, and we organized, and by 2008 we had a (by the standards of the time) progressive candidate at the top of the ticket, offering “radical socialist” policies ideas like universal healthcare and just a general vibe of inclusiveness rather than division. The Democratic party rejected the establishment options and nominated the bold candidate, the black guy with the middle name huessain. And we worked our asses off, I was mostly working on local campaigns but did some door knocking for Obama in a swing state.
And we won. The same country that four years ago shrugged off concerns about a guy who lied to get us into a war, turned around and voted for the (comparatively) progressive black guy the right painted as an out and out socialist by a landslide.
It’s not just that we defeated Trumpism in 2018, and 2020, and to some extent in 2022. Democrats turned a country that voted for a moron with little to no respect for democratic norms and the rule of law by wide margins, into a country that voted for a progressive in 2008.
We can do it again. We can organize and fight and convince the working class Americans who are so fed up with the status quo that they are so desperate for change that they voted for Trump, that real change that actually benefits working people is progressive. We can do that.
Two conditions though. First, we can’t let the DNC force another moderate center right candidate on us. Second, we have to make sure elections are still a thing that happens in America come 2026 and 2028. Both are tall orders, but we can do it.
I just want to nip this line of thought real quick. Policies and candidates matter, convincing voters about your positions all the time (not just during an election) matters, meeting voters where they are and having conversations matters.
Trump basically proved this.
Harris out raised Trump almost 2 to 1. Harris had an army of volunteers and the biggest ground operation in history. Trump improved his margins over 2020 anyway. Most importantly, Trump did better in states and counties where neither campaign was spending any resources, like New Jersey, or another really good example is Dade County which swung over 40 points in Trump’s favor since 2016, with neither party campaigning there.
A big reason was what Biden and Democrats did, not during the election, but in the three years before the election. They passed some moderate policies and utterly failed to sell those policies to voters as things that will help the average person. The average voter if asked what Biden did for them would give you a blank stare, and that’s on Biden and Democrats failing to 1) act boldly and 2) communicate their policy vision and how it helps people.
Meanwhile Republicans everyday beat on the drum of inflation and immigration and crime, whether or not those issues were real people felt like they were real. And most importantly people saw these messages, because Republicans are able to get in front of regular voters, to get into the national consciousness. Sometimes by going to spaces that aren’t blatantly right wing, but right wing friendly, like Rogan, sometimes just being loud and causing controversy that trickles into other spaces. When moderate spaces ridicule the latest right wing controversy, that also gets their message in front of regular people, who may not agree outright but will at least consider it. The average voter rolled their eyes at Trump saying immigrants are eating pets, but just by seeing the outrage gave some consideration to immigration and whether it’s a problem, including a cultural problem, and considered and thought about the Trump campaigns larger argument. And it cost Trump zero dollars to get a week or more of coverage about what he considers the problems with immigration just by making an outlandish claim.
Money is helpful, but it’s not even close to everything. We need Democrats with real liberal policies, getting in front of voters to explain what they mean to their lives, to talk about money in politics and corporate greed and wage stagnation and the transfer of wealth from the working class to the oligarchs, to talk about what is sure to be new epic levels of government corruption and incompetence that hurts real people. And Democrats need to do that everyday, not just in the months before an election, and need to do that in spaces where people are, not just on cable news.
