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SulaymanF

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neither Biden nor Trump are killing anyone

Biden has publicly said that a country supplying weapons is just as guilty as the one using those weapons. He was talking about Iran giving Russia weapons that are used against Ukrainians, and he’s a hypocrite if he pretends Israel is any different, particularly when he is the one vetoing ceasefires at the UN and rewarding Netanyahu for refusing to take ceasefire deals.

“Correction, 10% of the food is entering Gaza” means famine will continue and mass starvation. A war crime against literal millions of people. Do you think that being slightly off on the death toll means it’s acceptable?

Israel has every intention of sending a very clear message for future Hamas recruits

Israel has tried this strategy for 30 years and it never worked and will not work. You’re basically pushing a “bomb them until they love us” strategy.

70% of the buildings are destroyed. Tent cities were set on fire. Palestinians burned alive in hospital beds. It’s virtually indistinguishable from carpet bombing.

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Then maybe Harris should have listened to what the majority of Americans wanted over her donors.

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Wow, victim blaming and bigotry. That really showed me how much you want to save us minorities from fascists right?

Polling shows you’re wrong, but if you want to blame Muslims and Jews (rather than Biden’s screwups that hobbled Harris’ campaign) it’s basically an American tradition by this point.

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This argument is based on no facts at all. There’s no polling data showing that Gaza was even a top 3 issue among voters, and Trump won Michigan by a margin so big that it was more than every Arab-American in the entire state and then some.

AND everyone in North Gaza will be dead by New Years because the UN reports no food has been allowed to be delivered in over a month and the “Generals Plan” in Israel says everyone who didn’t evacuate will be treated as a Hamas fighter and killed on sight. That’s ALL on Biden without Trump even entering the White House yet. Biden doesn’t even airdrop food anymore. So bashing this as a “but Trump will turn Gaza into glass” is a moot point since Biden will have killed everyone there months beforehand.

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Meeting Arab American voters is not “far left.” Biden actively diverted his campaign stops in Michigan to avoid meeting them and Harris campaign refused to let Palestinian-Americans endorse her on camera at the DNC.

It’s nor far left to meet Palestinian-Americans and Lebanese Americans who lost loved ones in bombings. Biden routinely met with Israeli-Americans in the White House and family members of hostages and posted photos with them on his instagram. Meeting just ONE Arab-American family is something he never did, and saying that would be a far left thing to do is frankly offensive.

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The UN isn’t lying when they said north Gaza has had no food delivered for weeks and the IDF isn’t lying when they said anyone left alive there who didn’t evacuate is an enemy combatant. The “Generals strategy” is playing out in Israel.

We’re all pissed that Trump won but don’t take it out on others who are also suffering alongside you.

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That’s an excellent question. The Harris campaign decided to not let Palestinians speak at the DNC. The Uncommitted movement offered to endorse her but the staff refused to let any Palestinian Americans do so on camera, even with pre-vetted remarks. It’s mystifying and one of the major blunders of the Harris campaign.

Harris seemed hyper focused on avoiding any criticism by Trump or Republicans. Hence she wouldn’t meet with Palestinian-Americans and avoided all the Muslim voters in Pennsylvania who were trying to meet with her. She was working so hard to get Republicans to flip and support her, which is why she did a rally with Liz Cheney and talked about how much she’d help Israel, and decided the Arab-American and Muslim-American votes were expendable if it meant getting more Republicans.

Hillary tried the same strategy in 2016, and it failed badly. Throwing one of the most loyal democratic voting blocs under the bus to get Republicans to flip for them, has been a strategy of 2 of the last 3 elections (Biden promised to undo the Muslim ban but nothing else, so I don’t know if that counts) and they keep repeating this playbook with the same results. I fear that in 2028 they won’t even try to get our votes again and will try to cozy up to Trump’s Muslim ban in hopes that Republicans flip to democrat once again.

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Everyone in north Gaza will be dead by new years because of the intentional famine. And it will happen completely under Biden without Trump even getting to the White House.

The community is literally dying and all you can do is throw insults.

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