Yeah, a few hundred thousand more than e.g. China. That’s if you don’t count the 11 milloin Uyghurs in what can only be called concentration camps.

Dude, even your first link, Racket News, written my Matt Taibbi.

Taibbi began as a freelance reporter working in the former Soviet Union.

Such US corporate leftist stuff indeed.

What is and isn’t a crime that lands you hard time or civic duty hasn’t really changed much at all during modern times, at least in Finland.

When they do, the consequences change with them.

For exmple having a repeat DUI person clean roadsides is a great way to rehabilitate.

Part of resocialising is that you get to meet your demons daily. I’m from Finland and our system has one of the highest success rates in the world.

You downvoting me makes it seem like you’d prefer to coddle someone that chose harm, and I find that apalling.

I don’t think anyone with a relatively good conscience thinks The US has it right. Luckily they are only 3% percent of the world.

Yeah fuck that, dude. 😑 Like I said, actual crimes.

If you run over children with your car and have to fix potholes for 8 yeara, that’s ok in my books. Having to do that because you think women should be able to vote IS different.

But that’s merely my opinion and fits my world view perfectly

And it’s not about making money, it’s about having consiquenses. The prisoner working has a guard (at least where I live) whose pay is more than what the convict makes.

That’s exactly what I said, thank you.

It’s s bit different when you do forced labour for actual crimes and not just because you had an opinion. Disagreeing with the government is not the same as rape and murder. These germans were sentenced to life for belieiving in modern rights.

Actual crimes, as in manslaughter, rape, stealing from another.

As a Finnish person I wholeheartedly agree with Linus.