youarehurtingthefediverse

Can we please stop pretending that this is being done for the good of the people? If the people are “going back to reddit” because they are not being spoon-fed and getting their food pre-chewed, then they are robbing themselves of the opportunity to learn and grow.

Stop treating everyone like helpless idiots, and the majority of them will show that they are actually quite capable.

Nice! That did it! Thank you so much!

Thank you, unfortunately I don’t think it worked. My posts from the last week or so are still not visible here.

Nice jab! Now can you please address the argument? If changing the registration page is a good solution, what should be the expected change in userbase split?

At this moment, lemmy.world has 8x as many MAU as lemmy.ml and it has pretty much as much users as ALL of the top 10 combined.

Let’s make a deal. If they manage to bring this down to less than ~35% after two weeks after they implement their solution, then I will shut up about it and you never hear from me. If they don’t, then they close registrations. Sounds reasonable?

stability is nice but reliability is also very important.

Reliability of the system overall? Yes. But reliability in distributed systems is achieved by ensuring that we don’t have single points of failure and by making it “cheap” to fail. Having a gigantic instance in a sea of powerless nodes is quite the opposite of “reliable”.

since the issue was that your instance was failing to federate to lemmy.world.

The issue still persists. I updated the database 3 hours ago, my posts are still not visible here. @Antik claims it might be that my server got into their own “ban list”, which would squarely would make it their fault because (a) other nodes are not doing this and (b) I didn’t make any change on my server infra.

because it’s not accurate to say lemmy.world is full

Yes, it is. It’s not up to them to say it. It’s up to us in the minority side to go on and say “hey, you are taking up too much space”. Which they are.

The success of lemmy.world has nothing to do with bias or unfair practices.

That’s a cop-out. They literally launched their instance on a blog post saying “you already know us from mastodon.world and we want to make lemmy.world equally popular.”

I’d wager it’s 90% word-of-mouth.

If that is true and if they wanted to be responsible with the fediverse, they could (should?) be actively suppressing it, much like lemmy.ml admins did during the reddit blackout.

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I think I get it, in the end of the day you can argue “you can not blame them for their own success”, and normally I’d agree. I am just seriously asking you (and the admins) to reconsider this idea of what “success” is (especially in the context of the fediverse) and I would really like if they could stop for a moment and see of they could to get themselves out of the spotlight in the moment where their “success” is leading to undesired side-effects on others.

Sorry, I am starting to get tired of repeating myself. Can you go through my history and see the 3 or 4 comments where I am arguing that the main point of my post is not specifically about the technical issue that is affecting me, but instead a larger point about how this idea that letting one instance grow and dominating the userbase while having so many issues is irresponsible?

That is completely off the mark, but it’s interesting: lemmy.world’s approach to growth is reckless and causing issues elsewhere, someone is calling it out, and yet you are trying to make this about me instead of addressing the problem that am pointing out.

They have NO reason to dox you.

If I get into details to explain why they do have reason to dox me, it could be used to dox me. Kind of tricky and maybe I’m being paranoid, but I don’t want to risk it.

If most instances were of equal size you likely wouldn’t have noticed there was a problem at all.

If I haven’t noticed the problem, is it really a problem?

I can live in a world where I’m out of reach from maybe 20% of the potential audience, and maybe I wouldn’t mind it if I noticed that a workaround was required for that. But I do very much mind having to live in a world where I have to be checking with the admins what the hell is going on and why I am shut off from communication with the majority through no fault of my own.

That’s a good faith effort and a good middle ground.

Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Saying “we are the largest and easiest place to get started, but if you don’t believe us here are some other places you can take a look” is completely different from “our home is full now, but the cool thing about the fediverse is that you can enjoy it wherever you are”.

Having the inability of saying “we can’t do it, but you can be happy on X, Y and Z” feels like a twisted way of saying “we don’t really care about you, we care about having you”.

Anyway, thank you for at least trying to engage in a productive conversation. Everyone else seems to just want to feel personally attacked and completely missing the point.